Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So are we 'both right' or is one of us wrong?

This is one of your ripcord questions. Here: I have absolutely no reason to believe you are "right" about supernatural beings, angels, demons, and your supposed immortality. That's your answer. Yet again.

Originally posted by FMF
This is one of your ripcord questions. Here: I have absolutely no reason to believe you are "right" about supernatural beings, angels, demons, and your supposed immortality. That's your answer. Yet again.

That doesn't answer the question I asked.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
That doesn't answer the question I asked.

Of course it does.

Originally posted by FMF
This is one of your ripcord questions. Here: I have absolutely no reason to believe you are "right" about supernatural beings, angels, demons, and your supposed immortality. That's your answer. Yet again.

But how do you know that the things you find credible are true and the things you don't find credible are false? What assurance do you have of the truthfulness of your beliefs?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So are we 'both right' or is one of us wrong?

What we believe is irrelevant. God will reveal the truth so why try taking God's place?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
But how do you know that the things you find credible are true and the things you don't find credible are false? What assurance do you have of the truthfulness of your beliefs?

Assurance?

Originally posted by Eladar
What we believe is irrelevant. God will reveal the truth so why try taking God's place?

So your belief in God and the Bible is irrelevant? How am I taking God's place? 🙄

Originally posted by FMF
Assurance?

Guarantee?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Guarantee?

Guarantee of what, for example?

Originally posted by FMF
Guarantee of what, for example?

Of something that inspires confidence in your beliefs being true? For example experiential relevance?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Of something that inspires confidence in your beliefs being true?

But I am confident that my beliefs are true. If you mean to say that you are confident that your beliefs are "true" and mine are not, I am fine with that, As I have said umpteen times before, your confidence, sincerity, certainty [and repetitiveness] have no bearing on what I find credible and what I find not credible.

Originally posted by whodey
Christianity was a relatively benign religion before Constantine subverted it and turned it into a statist religion. Constantine was not even a Christian.

For hundreds of years, Christians met in homes peaceably to worship while being thrown to the lions by governments around the world.

Doesn't really help much NOW does it?

Originally posted by sonhouse
Doesn't really help much NOW does it?

Not when statists take it over, no.

The problem with Islam though is, you can't separate the state and Islam.

Originally posted by whodey
The problem with Islam though is, you can't separate the state and Islam.

Who knows. Maybe that's exactly what the Abrahamic God wanted.

Originally posted by FMF
Who knows. Maybe that's exactly what the Abrahamic God wanted.

You mean the Abrahamic person who manufactured these religions.