I’m think about dumping this forum for a while

@divegeester said
You sometimes post angry when you’ve been drinking, others have spotted it too. Even for you your style becomes abrupt, clipped, full of non sequiturs and angry barbs.

Today you’re just being your usual self.

It's the moons fault. 🤣

@divegeester said
“Don’t toe the line with scripture”

Just listen to yourself man.

Could you show me where I called you a tare?

@josephw said
It's the moons fault. 🤣

Stay of the alcohol.

@kellyjay said
Could you show me where I called you a tare?

I already have in a previous thread.

Tell me you don’t remember me doing that?

@josephw said
"...by the grace of God I am what I am:".

A blowhard?

@divegeester said
A blowhard?

You blew hard on page 8, 13th post. My reply is at the top of page 9.

Did you run out of wind? Or are you going to play your game of dodge and duck and deflection?

Or will you show some integrity?

Or make more unsubstantiated accusations with labeling and ad hominem attacks?

Or dump the forum?

Or be wishy-washy and demonstrate how weak and ineffectual your argument really is?

@divegeester

You're really good at ad hominem.

Is there a chance you can actually stay on topic and produce a substantive post?

@divegeester

Here's an example of the shallowness and spurious nature of your line of reasoning:

You posted this -

"Assertion 1)
Jesus saves the few, not the many

Evidence 1) Matt 7:14
“Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”

You got it backwards. The assertion is, as Jesus said, that few find it - "it" being life.

A corollary of John 3:16 where Jesus also said, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Notice the qualifier for not "perishing". "Belief".

Pretty simple to understand don't you think?

The assertion is that one can have "life" upon "belief", that "few find it", that "believing" saves from "perishing", and also the converse of not "finding it" and not "believing" is "perishing" or in the "broad way" that leads to "destruction".

Oddly enough, but apparently beyond you mental grasp, is that the assertion follows after the evidence.

I think that after reading the above you should realize the futility of you argument, that your understanding of what the scriptures say is inverted, that you need to actually read the Bible and consider the exact wording.

Then maybe you won't make yourself look so biblically ignorant and incompetent, and make such erroneous inferences and assertions.

@josephw said
@divegeester

Here's an example of the shallowness and spurious nature of your line of reasoning:

You posted this -

"Assertion 1)
Jesus saves the few, not the many

Evidence 1) Matt 7:14
“Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”

You got it backwards. The assertion is, as Jesus said, that fe ...[text shortened]... self look so biblically ignorant and incompetent, and make such erroneous inferences and assertions.

I don’t see how any of this refutes what my OP asserts.

For example, I am indeed calling out that only a few find the way, find the life. You realise that the “way” is a metaphor for life? We are saying the same thing.

@divegeester said
I don’t see how any of this refutes what my OP asserts.

For example, I am indeed calling out that only a few find the way, find the life. You realise that the “way” is a metaphor for life? We are saying the same thing.

"I am indeed calling out that only a few find the way, find the life."

What do you mean "calling out"?

@josephw said
"...by the grace of God I am what I am:"

Popeye the Sailor Man?

@divegeester said

By the way the horizon is at least 3 miles away at sea level at standing height.

@josephw is obviously crouching down next to his dog, therefore not at standing height.

@kevin-eleven said
Popeye the Sailor Man?

My dad was a career sailor, so I joined the Air Force.

Maverick is my code name.

@kevin-eleven said
@josephw is obviously crouching down next to his dog, therefore not at standing height.

I have to crouch down to talk to my dog, otherwise she jumps on me. That's my Blue Heeler. I have two others. Not Heelers. Nine cats thanks to one particular female. I need to get her fixed. A bullet is cheaper.

@divegeester said
I already have in a previous thread.

Tell me you don’t remember me doing that?

I don’t believe I did so I am asking you to correct me or realize I didn’t.