Originally posted by robbie carrobieOh, we can see this, alright.
ah yes, motivated by ego rather than a quest for truth, as for me I have every faith that anyone reading these discussions can see for themselves how incredibly pointless it is trying to reason with nominal Christians.
You are so in thrall to your perverted overlords that you cannot see the truth. You have been blinded.
It's sad, really.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieNo, it is you that is incapable of rational thought.
you are hysterical and appear to me to be incapable of rational thought.
You said so yourself - you cannot or will not debate any point that is not merely a regurgitation of an official JW interpretation of a particular scripture!
As Suzy said - sad, really...
Originally posted by CalJustthis is not helping your case, i have made at every turn reference to the original language and based all interpretations purely on an understanding of the Biblical text, i have not mentioned Jehovahs witnesses once, infact i grew tired at the repeated references made to Jehovahs witnesses by others, devoid of reason, incapable of rational thought, blinded by religious bias and looking for an easy target, when I drew attention to the irrelevancy of their remarks they made even more and they do as you have just done, introduce another irrelevancy.
No, it is you that is incapable of rational thought.
You said so yourself - you cannot or will not debate any point that is not merely a regurgitation of an official JW interpretation of a particular scripture!
As Suzy said - sad, really...
All that matters is what is written in scripture, this thread is about Isaiah 9:6, not Jehovahs witnesses, how you can fail to recognise the fact is known only to you.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieNo it is not what is wriiten in scripture that matters to you. The only thing that matters to you is the changing and twisting of scripture to agree with the Watchtower doctrines. It is for that purpose only that the Watchtower made their own translation and keep making new editions to change what they have missed changing in previous editions.
this is not helping your case, i have made at every turn reference to the original language and based all interpretations purely on an understanding of the Biblical text, i have not mentioned Jehovahs witnesses once, infact i grew tired at the repeated references made to Jehovahs witnesses by others, devoid of reason, incapable of rational thought, b ...[text shortened]... Isaiah 9:6, not Jehovahs witnesses, how you can fail to recognise the fact is known only to you.
Jehovah's Witnesses worshipped Jesus until 1954
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/worship-jesus.php
Originally posted by RJHindsthis thread is about Isaiah 9:6, your inability to recognise the fact is an indication of a mind that is simply incapable of rational thought.
No it is not what is wriiten in scripture that matters to you. The only thing that matters to you is the changing and twisting of scripture to agree with the Watchtower doctrines. It is for that purpose only that the Watchtower made their own translation and keep making new editions to change what they have missed changing in previous editions.
Jehovah's Witnesses worshipped Jesus until 1954
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/worship-jesus.php
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI was just pointing out your deceitfulness. However I will post my reverence in the proprer thread and then you can respond there.
this thread is about Isaiah 9:6, your inability to recognise the fact is an indication of a mind that is simply incapable of rational thought.
Originally posted by RJHindsAgain you seem incapable of rational thought, the text is not about me personally, its about Isaiah 9:6, perhaps this is the same reason why you cannot distinguish between the subject of a clause and the predicate noun, you are simply incapable of rational thought. Have you seen a doctor recently?
I was just pointing out your deceitfulness. However I will post my reverence in the proprer thread and then you can respond there.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBut this thread is about you and your unwillingness to accept the truth. The only thing that matters to you is the changing and twisting of scripture to agree with the Watchtower doctrines. It is for that purpose only that the Watchtower made their own translation and keep making new editions to change what they have missed changing in previous editions.
Again you seem incapable of rational thought, the text is not about me personally, its about Isaiah 9:6, perhaps this is the same reason why you cannot distinguish between the subject of a clause and the predicate noun, you are simply incapable of rational thought. Have you seen a doctor recently?
How do you wish to change and twist the meaning of Isaiah 9:6?
Originally posted by RJHindswait until the full moon you can have lots of fun howling at it, the little caravan trundles on and the dogs howl into the twilight
But this thread is about you and your unwillingness to accept the truth. The only thing that matters to you is the changing and twisting of scripture to agree with the Watchtower doctrines. It is for that purpose only that the Watchtower made their own translation and keep making new editions to change what they have missed changing in previous editions.
[b]How do you wish to change and twist the meaning of Isaiah 9:6? [/b]
Ok I'll take a crack at this It's Mighty God vs Almighty God right ? I also do not know the Hebrew words for Mighty God vs Almighty God But I will look these words up first and look at them and see if I can ascertain the difference between the two words. I can tell you that Isaiah 9:6 is/was referring to the coming Messiah (Namely Jesus) Can we or do we agree on this point? (At this point I'm not trying to prove Jesus is anything other than this scripture is referring to Him)
Manny
he NAS Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon
Strong's Number: 1368
Original Word Word Origin
rwbbg intensive from (01396)
Transliterated Word TDNT Entry
Gibbowr TWOT - 310b
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
ghib-bore'
Definition
adj
strong, mighty n m
strong man, brave man, mighty man
NAS Word Usage - Total: 158
champion 2, great 1, helpers 1, heroes 3, men 3, men of outstanding 1, Mighty 1, mighty 27, mighty man 15, mighty men 57, Mighty One 1, mighty one 2, mighty ones 3, mighty warrior 1, mighty warriors 2, strong 1, strong man 1, valiant warriors 1, valiant* 1, warrior 14, warrior has over another 1, warrior's 1, warriors 17, who is mighty 1
OK so the word for Mighty is ghib-bore it basically means strong or Mighty
Manny