04 Nov 13
Originally posted by Proper KnobBut he has. He has proved beyond doubt that he is wilfully ignorant. He has given the same admission that Robbie gave - that he won't read a book on evolution and that doing so would endanger his faith.
Funny thing is, Galveston will leave this thread thinking he's proved a point.
04 Nov 13
Originally posted by twhiteheadNo book will ever prove it. One day maybe you and the others will see that.
But he has. He has proved beyond doubt that he is wilfully ignorant. He has given the same admission that Robbie gave - that he won't read a book on evolution and that doing so would endanger his faith.
Maybe a learning lesson? Try this out if you will:
http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html
04 Nov 13
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Originally posted by twhiteheadHummm I thought that would be a simple enough thing to get. Perhaps if you understood what "kinds or species" were it would help you see that evolution just doesn't work. Kinds or species have never changed and never will just as the Bible explains.
Still no acknowledgement of my first post. Thanks.
Still no definition of 'Kind'. Thanks.
Try this.....There are different "kinds" of transportation one could take on a trip. A car is a car and not a bus and will never turn into a bus as it is a car. Neither will a plane turn into a ship as they are all different "kinds" of transportations available for our use.
Or this....A horse is a horse. Always has been and always will be a horse. It's will never turn into a bird as a bird is not a horse and they are two different "kinds" or "species".
Simply enough? No?
05 Nov 13
Originally posted by RJHindsWell not really but I know why you say that. I've admitted that many are very educated and many far then I'll ever be. But sometimes us simple people can see things clearly and just scratch our heads and wonder how so many that are educated can be fooled by this.
I think he has proved a point -- Atheist Evilutionists are stupid.
The Instructor
But education does not always mean common sence and when you throw in haughtyness and wanting to appear to be superior, well you get ones who first deny God and his wisdom and promote their beiliefs no matter what.
05 Nov 13
Originally posted by galveston75I know what 'species' is in the scientific world. And yes, species have changed.
Hummm I thought that would be a simple enough thing to get. Perhaps if you understood what "kinds or species" were it would help you see that evolution just doesn't work. Kinds or species have never changed and never will just as the Bible explains.
Try this.....There are different "kinds" of transportation one could take on a trip. A car is a car and not a bus and will never turn into a bus as it is a car. Neither will a plane turn into a ship as they are all different "kinds" of transportations available for our use.
Actually I have driven a car that could also be called a mini-bus. There are also sea-planes, boat cars, etc.
So is a small hatchback the same 'kind' as a large 4x4?
Or this....A horse is a horse. Always has been and always will be a horse. It's will never turn into a bird as a bird is not a horse and they are two different "kinds" or "species".
Simply enough? No?
No.
Is a donkey the same kind as a horse? What about a mule? What about a Zebra?
I need a specific definition, not some wishy washy vagueness.
05 Nov 13
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Originally posted by twhiteheadThe zebras, donkeys, mules, and horses are all within the horse family, but they are different species within this main kind. So the term "kind" as used in the Holy Bible is not as specific as you want to use it. So the whole horse family can be said to be within the same biological kind. They can also be said to be different kinds when speaking of them at the species level.
I know what 'species' is in the scientific world. And yes, species have changed.
[b]Try this.....There are different "kinds" of transportation one could take on a trip. A car is a car and not a bus and will never turn into a bus as it is a car. Neither will a plane turn into a ship as they are all different "kinds" of transportations available for our ...[text shortened]... about a mule? What about a Zebra?
I need a specific definition, not some wishy washy vagueness.
The Instructor
05 Nov 13
Originally posted by RJHindsSo zebras are the same kind as horses and also not the same kind.
The zebras, donkeys, mules, and horses are all within the horse family, but they are different species within this main kind. So the term "kind" as used in the Holy Bible is not as specific as you want to use it. So the whole horse family can be said to be within the same biological kind. They can also be said to be different kinds when speaking of them at the species level.
The Instructor
Thanks for clearing that up.
05 Nov 13
Originally posted by RJHinds(1) They are different species of the same kind.
The zebras, donkeys, mules, and horses are all within the horse family, (1) but they are different species within this main kind. So the term "kind" as used in the Holy Bible is not as specific as you want to use it. So the whole horse family can be said to be within the same biological kind. (2) They can also be said to be different kinds when speaking of them at the species level.
The Instructor
(2) They are different kinds of the same species.
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05 Nov 13
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Originally posted by RJHindsIts not about how specific I want it to be, its about how specific galveston75 means it in his usage. He made some very specific statements and used the word 'kind'. I want to know exactly what he meant by 'kind' in those statements.
So the term "kind" as used in the Holy Bible is not as specific as you want to use it.
It is becoming clear however that he doesn't actually know what he meant.
Galveston75 said:
If this is fact then show me a link where I can actually see one KIND changing to another KIND.
I want a reliable test I can use on two animals to know whether or not they are the same KIND, before I present my example to Galveston. If he cannot give me this test, then when I present my example he will simply say 'but they are the same KIND'. He is devious that way.