30 Jun 08
Originally posted by 667joeNo US coins or currency had that detestable motto until 1864, when it first appeared on the penny at the initiative of Salmon P. Chase, Secretary of the Treasury. It didn't appear on all US coinage until the 1930s, and didn't appear on currency until the 1950s, during the McCarthyist scare.
As an atheist I want the "IN GOD WE TRUST" motto removed from our money. Our money should not reflect any religious view at all. To my theist friends, how would you feel if our money promoted atheism? If our money does not promote theism or atheism, perhaps we can all be happy!
In other words, no US coins or currency at the time of our nation's founding had that motto. We got along just fine for the majority of our history without it. I agree with you that it is a divisive motto and should be removed from all coins and currency.
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by 667joeif we start now we might get all the old money replaced w/ new bills in a couple generations. we'll probably replace money completely w/ credit before all that happens.
As an atheist I want the "IN GOD WE TRUST" motto removed from our money. Our money should not reflect any religious view at all. To my theist friends, how would you feel if our money promoted atheism? If our money does not promote theism or atheism, perhaps we can all be happy!
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by 667joeAs a Christian I want all people to go to church, since I'm not likey
As an atheist I want the "IN GOD WE TRUST" motto removed from our money. Our money should not reflect any religious view at all. To my theist friends, how would you feel if our money promoted atheism? If our money does not promote theism or atheism, perhaps we can all be happy!
going to get what I want, why should you?
Kelly
30 Jun 08
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Originally posted by KellyJayWhy should your belief in god be promoted while my disbelief is trampled over? The state should remain neutral on the issue of god, neither promoting nor discouraging belief. Therefore the motto should be removed.
As a Christian I want all people to go to church, since I'm not likey
going to get what I want, why should you?
Kelly
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by KellyJayThat is not a fair comparison:
As a Christian I want all people to go to church, since I'm not likey
going to get what I want, why should you?
Kelly
People are given the choice of whether or not they go to church.
People are not given the choice of whether or not religious propaganda is written on their money.
30 Jun 08
Originally posted by KellyJayBecause what we want is to reverse a violation of the constitution of the united states.
As a Christian I want all people to go to church, since I'm not likey
going to get what I want, why should you?
Kelly
If the government forced what you want then it would violate the constitution.
By your logic noone should ever get what they want.
01 Jul 08
Originally posted by 667joeI doubt it would bring happiness, but I'm all for removing the motto from money. I'd think that Jesus would be also.
As an atheist I want the "IN GOD WE TRUST" motto removed from our money. Our money should not reflect any religious view at all. To my theist friends, how would you feel if our money promoted atheism? If our money does not promote theism or atheism, perhaps we can all be happy!
01 Jul 08
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Originally posted by 667joeIt pisses me off too. 😠This sort of thing is why I am so hostile to the Christians in the US.
As an atheist I want the "IN GOD WE TRUST" motto removed from our money. Our money should not reflect any religious view at all. To my theist friends, how would you feel if our money promoted atheism? If our money does not promote theism or atheism, perhaps we can all be happy!
The next time Christians start whining about how mean I am to you, remember, there are reasons for it which I take very seriously. Respect me and I'll respect you.
01 Jul 08
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomNot at all. It would just make things tremendously inconvenient. I'm a teacher. One of my students' Dad is a security guard. I don't want a security guard's services. I want to pay my rent.
dont you think if we traded only goods and services instead of useless paper that our world would prosper more? nobody would own anything useless.
When I worked in a tobacco shop, I did not want to be paid in bags of cigarettes, and my boss did not want me to accept cosmetics in exchange for tobacco.
Money's a wonderful thing!
01 Jul 08
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Originally posted by KellyJayBecause we don't have a right to control other peoples' actions with respect to going to church. We do however have the right to vote on removing that crap from our money.
As a Christian I want all people to go to church, since I'm not likey
going to get what I want, why should you?
Kelly
01 Jul 08
Originally posted by 667joeIf you want it removed vote that way. If not,vote the other way. That is how it is supposed to work isn't it?
As an atheist I want the "IN GOD WE TRUST" motto removed from our money. Our money should not reflect any religious view at all. To my theist friends, how would you feel if our money promoted atheism? If our money does not promote theism or atheism, perhaps we can all be happy!
It does promote theism. Wonder what they had in mind when they did that? I suppose this kind of influence did help shape a healthy nation.(I am not for state endorsed religion btw.)