I think we should tell our congressmen, senators, parliament members, genetic scientists to support work on the virus that kills the god part of the brain, where the entire planet catches a cold and when they get well they look at the religious books written by the millions and go 'we believed in that BS?' Then the world begins to build a real civilization and have no more excuses to kill each other just based on dogma.
Anyone here sign up to that? We could probably have the ungod virus in a couple of years of research.
Originally posted by sonhouseHmm. Unfortunately it might turn out that the part of the brain in question has other quite necessary functions, so I'm thinking the best bet is to fight fire with fire and condition everyone to believe that Carl Sagan is God.
I think we should tell our congressmen, senators, parliament members, genetic scientists to support work on the virus that kills the god part of the brain, where the entire planet catches a cold and when they get well they look at the religious books written by the millions and go 'we believed in that BS?' Then the world begins to build a real civilization ...[text shortened]... here sign up to that? We could probably have the ungod virus in a couple of years of research.
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Originally posted by sonhouseYou think if there is no religion that mankind will be free of war? What if there were just one unified religion surely that would stop all the disagreements. What if that religion didn't actually have a 'controlling' deity, that would be even better wouldn't it. Perhaps we should all be Buddhists?
Then the world begins to build a real civilization and have no more excuses to kill each other just based on dogma.
Originally posted by black beetleOur theme song:
No religion😵
Gonna chuck my god cause I can't stand religion
No I can't stand religion
No I can't stand religion
Gonna chuck my god cause I can't stand religion
Let us think together
We will all pray, pray for the success
Pray for the success, I said Pray for success
Yes let's all pray, pray for the success
Pray for the success of atheism
Gonna chuck my god cause we can't stand religion
No we can't stand religions no we can't stand religions
Oh we gonna chuck those gods cause we can't stand religion
And Glory be to thinking!
Originally posted by sonhouse
Our theme song:
.... with annotations by the disloyal opposition ...
Gonna chuck my god cause I can't stand religion
No I can't stand religion
No I can't stand religion
Gonna chuck my god cause I can't stand religion
Yeah, there's a lot of emotion here... but where's the thinking?
Let us think together
Didn't Leibniz try that? IIRC he ran into some problems....
We will all pray, pray for the success
Pray for the success, I said Pray for success
Yes let's all pray, pray for the success
Pray for the success of atheism
Now that's funny. Like the epitaph: "Here lies an atheist... all dressed up and no place to go."
On the other hand: "If there were no God, there would be no atheists." Let us think together....
(and just in passing: on one of the other threads, you claimed not to care whether God existed or not. Have you changed your mind so quickly? ... hmmm, more food for thought....)
Gonna chuck my god cause we can't stand religion
No we can't stand religions no we can't stand religions
Oh we gonna chuck those gods cause we can't stand religion
Glory be to thinking!
Glory be to thinking, indeed! Keep on doing it, and if you're really interested in truth, you'll find it, eventually.... and please do chuck the false gods, along with the false non-gods.
Originally posted by pyxelatedHey, you should glorify thinking, since that is what created religion in the first place.
Originally posted by sonhouse
[b]Our theme song:
.... with annotations by the disloyal opposition ...
Gonna chuck my god cause I can't stand religion
No I can't stand religion
No I can't stand religion
Gonna chuck my god cause I can't stand religion
Yeah, there's a lot of emotion here... but where's the thinking?
...[text shortened]... tually.... and please do chuck the false gods, along with the false non-gods.
Originally posted by sonhouseAnd you want to keep doing something that created the very thing you can't stand? Where's the logic in that? 🙂
Hey, you should glorify thinking, since that is what created religion in the first place.
If thinking comes up with both religion and non-religion, doesn't that render it just the least bit... untrustworthy?
But wait... what are we doing here?
And how can we avoid it? After all, we have to be able to trust something... otherwise there's no "reason" to do or omit anything. All bets are off. Eat, drink, and be merry!
Right?
(PS I do glorify thinking... correct thinking, that is. In Greek that's "ortho-doxy" (well, it's actually "right teaching," but since we don't come into the world fully capable of thinking for ourselves, that's extremely important.)
Originally posted by sonhouseToo dangerous. What happens if it goes out of control and ends up killing not just the God idea, but God itself?
I think we should tell our congressmen, senators, parliament members, genetic scientists to support work on the virus that kills the god part of the brain, where the entire planet catches a cold and when they get well they look at the religious books written by the millions and go 'we believed in that BS?' Then the world begins to build a real civilization ...[text shortened]... here sign up to that? We could probably have the ungod virus in a couple of years of research.
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Originally posted by sonhouseOf course that is facetious, but... While there being no religion would remove an institution that serves some functions we wish did not need serving, primarily IMO, inter-group rivalry, I believe the withering away of a need for those functions with withering away of the parts of religion that serve them, is a better way to go. Otherwise, an effective ungod virus will result in some other institution, most likely, government, absorbing them, e.g., Naziism seeking to supplant religion, with the Aryan ideal taking the place of God, the dictatorship being the priests, and license to kill for the faith.
I think we should tell our congressmen, senators, parliament members, genetic scientists to support work on the virus that kills the god part of the brain, where the entire planet catches a cold and when they get well they look at the religious books written by the millions and go 'we believed in that BS?' Then the world begins to build a real civilization ...[text shortened]... here sign up to that? We could probably have the ungod virus in a couple of years of research.
One would expect religion to be all in favor of eliminating inter-group rivalry. But some of the religious are, but some of those want to do it by eliminating, one way or another, their rivals.
Originally posted by sonhouseKind of hard to support that, and at the same time support people reasoning to philosophical conclusions. You, sonhouse, would really not support such a virus yourself (do I have to note that I get the facetiousness?). As long as you support reason and empiricism, you’ve just got to keep arguing… 🙂
I think we should tell our congressmen, senators, parliament members, genetic scientists to support work on the virus that kills the god part of the brain, where the entire planet catches a cold and when they get well they look at the religious books written by the millions and go 'we believed in that BS?' Then the world begins to build a real civilization ...[text shortened]... here sign up to that? We could probably have the ungod virus in a couple of years of research.