13 Aug 09
Originally posted by Bosse de NageYes. I started reading it from the link of modern English. Some interesting points she has; "we may never come to the full knowing of God, until we first know clearly our own soul". I thought it was going to be more biographical though? Is that later?
I found a Penguin in a charity shop a couple weeks ago. Fascinating stuff ... Worthy of filming, at the very least.
13 Aug 09
Originally posted by yo its meThe Proem waffles on like that, but the life story starts with Chapter 1.
Yes. I started reading it from the link of modern English. Some interesting points she has; "we may never come to the full knowing of God, until we first know clearly our own soul". I thought it was going to be more biographical though? Is that later?
13 Aug 09
Originally posted by karoly aczelUmm.. Like humans are His Earthly body to be his hands?
"all forces in one" ..? Yeah I guess you could put it like that.
The point I was trying to make is that "God" does not "act" . "It" inspires his 'angels' to act on Her behalf.
Anyway that's not your picture of Him. I'm after what you imiagine when you think of God. Did you read Jigties and Boss' discription?
13 Aug 09
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Let me elaborate; Picking someone we all know of. If I was to describe Shav I'd say he plays chess and he's interested in politics etc. But if I was to imiagine him it'd be in person I'd visually see what he looks like and hear his accent, his laugh. Maybe you'd rememeber a post he's made, how it made you laugh or how it offended you. You might imiagine him sitting in a living room accross from a laptop looking like his avatar! That's your picture of him. What's your picture of God?
13 Aug 09
A theistic concept of god is intellectually impoverished and is no longer tenable. In order for 'god' to have any relevance to the modern world, it must be reconfigured in a non-theistic mode. Hence, god is a metaphor. It is a mental projection of all the best and noblest human qualities bundled into one conceptual entity. God is the ideal Platonic form of humanity, of which we are imperfect copies.
13 Aug 09
Originally posted by rwingettGod is both a metaphor and the orginal perfect human?
A theistic concept of god is intellectually impoverished and is no longer tenable. In order for 'god' to have any relevance to the modern world, it must be reconfigured in a non-theistic mode. Hence, god is a metaphor. It is a mental projection of all the best and noblest human qualities bundled into one conceptual entity. God is the ideal Platonic form of humanity, of which we are imperfect copies.
13 Aug 09
Originally posted by rwingettSomething amiss with your Platonism here, although I'm not Platonist enough to finger it.
A theistic concept of god is intellectually impoverished and is no longer tenable. In order for 'god' to have any relevance to the modern world, it must be reconfigured in a non-theistic mode. Hence, god is a metaphor. It is a mental projection of all the best and noblest human qualities bundled into one conceptual entity. God is the ideal Platonic form of humanity, of which we are imperfect copies.
Paging Lord Shark ...
13 Aug 09
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Originally posted by yo its meYes
Umm.. Like humans are His Earthly body to be his hands?
Anyway that's not your picture of Him. I'm after what you imiagine when you think of God. Did you read Jigties and Boss' discription?
I did read their descriptions.
No offence to jigtie and bosse but I really dont want speculate on what my 'picture' of "Him" is.
"Like humans are the Earthly body to be his hands?" I dont exactly know what you are getting at but I think I might have an idea.
Now getting back to my origonal contention... I dont think God can be speculated about in the sense of what is manifested. In this sense I agree with the aetheists. There is no God as something that can be measured or taken as something that is separate from the whole.
So the whole christian notion of God as an old man with a flowing white beard sitting atop a cloud is just like Santa Claus for adults ,(as someone else has pointed out) , similarly any notion of a God that is manifested in anyway is wrong.
God is the all. She (It) is at the background of everything we experience. In this sense there is no seeking, fearing, challenging(ha,ha),etc God in any way. Just accept the basic idea of God being an all-pervading presence over everything and move on. Any furthur speculation is just wasted energy.
13 Aug 09
Originally posted by karoly aczelPanentheism, in a word?
Yes
I did read their descriptions.
No offence to jigtie and bosse but I really dont want speculate on what my 'picture' of "Him" is.
"Like humans are the Earthly body to be his hands?" I dont exactly know what you are getting at but I think I might have an idea.
Now getting back to my origonal contention... I dont think God can be speculated a ...[text shortened]... ading presence over everything and move on. Any furthur speculation is just wasted energy.