Originally posted by 667joe
Fellow theists! Remember that when an atheist quotes the rule of law or 'logic and evidence' as his ultimate authority, he is actually saying he does not have any real faith to stand behind!

Fixed!

Logic and evidence is not the final arbiter of what is right when considering God. It can never be. God surpasses these mortal, worldly standards.

Originally posted by 667joe
I think logic is excellent! Who designed the designer?

Another poster with his head up his arse.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Another poster with his head up his arse.

I noticed that no one has answered the question.Who designed the designer?

Originally posted by 667joe
I noticed that no one has answered the question.Who designed the designer?

He was from the beginning. I AM.

John 8:58

Originally posted by kd2acz
He was from the beginning. I AM.

John 8:58

So who or what kick started the old git in the beginning?

Originally posted by kd2acz
He was from the beginning. I AM.

John 8:58

Sorry. No evidence. Fails the logic test. You fit the profile of evidence deficiency.

Originally posted by Suzianne
Fixed!

Logic and evidence is not the final arbiter of what is right when considering God. It can never be. God surpasses these mortal, worldly standards.

How do you know for certain there is a GOD?


Where's your proof?

Originally posted by 667joe
Sorry. No evidence. Fails the logic test. You fit the profile of evidence deficiency.

Nice!

Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
How do you know for certain there is a GOD?


Where's your proof?

Dude... look in the mirror, you are created in his image!

Originally posted by Kepler
So who or what kick started the old git in the beginning?

Well that's the problem ins't it? We think in terms of time whereas God is in terms of eternity... no beginning and no end. I can't comprehend it and I don't doubt it, his ways are not our ways.

Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
How do you know for certain there is a GOD?


Where's your proof?

I have faith.

Proof is non sequitur.

Originally posted by 667joe
Sorry. No evidence. Fails the logic test. You fit the profile of evidence deficiency.

That's right.

In matters of God, faith rules.

"Evidence? Evidence? We don't need no steenking evidence!!"

God lives and moves in His mysterious ways quite well without evidence, thank you very much. Only humans think they need "evidence".

Originally posted by kd2acz
He was from the beginning. I AM.

John 8:58

Nice.

John is by far my favorite Gospel.

Matthew a close second, of course.

Originally posted by Suzianne
That's right.

In matters of God, faith rules.

"Evidence? Evidence? We don't need no steenking evidence!!"

God lives and moves in His mysterious ways quite well without evidence, thank you very much. Only humans think they need "evidence".

Isn't it both curious and wonderful that all the evidence you or I ever needed, was handed to us by the Lord; but in such a personal way that we can't dole it out as empirical proof. It's a personal thing. This tells me it was meant to be that way - the gift was meant for us, and us alone. The others - if God so chooses - will be given their own personal gifts.

Jesus spoke of this. He said the people of the World can't understand... he likened it to them being deaf and blind. And he said they will remain that way until he decides to open their eyes and ears.

Whether it's because of the Lord's choice alone, or because of something the unbeliever does to trigger it -- either way, it's an act of GOD that is required in order for faith and belief to be possible. Without that act, it cannot possibly happen.

Do you remember when Christ pierced your unbelieving heart? I remember it like it was yesterday. And yet--curiously--it seems like a dream.

Originally posted by sumydid
Isn't it both curious and wonderful that all the evidence you or I ever needed, was handed to us by the Lord; but in such a personal way that we can't dole it out as empirical proof. It's a personal thing. This tells me it was meant to be that way - the gift was meant for us, and us alone. The others - if God so chooses - will be given their own personal ...[text shortened]... heart? I remember it like it was yesterday. And yet--curiously--it seems like a dream.

I do. Like you, I cannot forget it.

It was a revelation. A bombshell. The ultimate "Aha!" moment.

Yes, faith IS personal. As I said in another thread, that is the beauty and the genius of it.