29 Dec 11
Originally posted by FabianFnasyou're talking to someone who believes in a literal 6-day creation.
So, any one believeing in God believing that the evolution is the greatest maracle created by God, and the Genesis describes evolution in a way that the people from those days could understand, i.e. as parables, is alright doing so?
And this is where I wanted to come eventually.
I hope I get a 'yes' from you in this matter.
29 Dec 11
Originally posted by VoidSpiritI do not have a photographic memory. There are many things I don't
what you said to wolfgang and fmf applies to you. read the bible so that you can correctly answer any criticisms brought up. otherwise you risk sounding foolish (too late for you).
remember, at times, that I have read. Sometimes I remember but not
exactly how it was worded. I do not claim to understand everything that
is written in the Holy Bible. I am sorry that I am not perfect enough
for you, but that's life.
29 Dec 11
Originally posted by RJHindsYou yourself said you can't take everything in the bible literally so it's clear you get to pick and choose what suits your particular set of delusions.
Is it your opinion that you only have to believe what Christ says to be a good
Christian? That is, do you believe you do not have to believe everything that
is written in the Holy Bible, such as the creation of the heavens and the earth,
to be a good Christian? How far back can your belief in evolution go before it
interfers with being a good Christian or do you believe it is totally irrelevant?
29 Dec 11
Originally posted by VoidSpiritIsn't that what the Holy Bible says? In six days God created the heavens
you're talking to someone who believes in a literal 6-day creation.
and the earth and rested on the seventh day. (Exodus 20:11) The day of
rest for the people of Israel was and still is a 24 hour day.
29 Dec 11
Originally posted by sonhouseNo, I did not say you can not take everything in the Holy Bible
You yourself said you can't take everything in the bible literally so it's clear you get to pick and choose what suits your particular set of delusions.
literally. You can take it literally if you want to and it may be
correct to do so. I only said that everything in the Holy Bible
may not be intended by the author to be taken literally. I don't
know. I was only speculating based on the question.
29 Dec 11
Originally posted by RJHindsIs this individual prerogative of each Christian - to interpret any text as intended to be literally true or intended to be not literally true - a Christian doctrine in your view?
You can take it literally if you want to and it may be
correct to do so.
29 Dec 11
Originally posted by FMFNo it is not a Christian doctrine. I believe each Christian should be
Is this individual prerogative of each Christian - to interpret any text as intended to be literally true or intended to be not literally true - a Christian doctrine in your view?
allowed the ability for free thinking and interpret the text based on
the context and understanding given to him.
29 Dec 11
Originally posted by RJHindsSo when you condemn fellow Christians - or even assert that they are not really Christians, or that they are Satanic etc. etc. - for their exercise of their individual prerogative [to pick and choose the literalness of sections of the bible], with what justification or authority do you do that? If you want others to accept or respect your freedom to interpret the bible as you personally want to, don't you feel even just a little obliged to, in return, accept and respect the freedom and prerogative of other Christians to do just as you do - more especially when you admit that your assertion of autonomy-to-interpret is not a Christian doctrine?
No it is not a Christian doctrine. I believe each Christian should be
allowed the ability for free thinking and interpret the text based on
the context and understanding given to him.
29 Dec 11
Originally posted by RJHindsBut the author was god wasn't it? Are you saying GOD did not want everything in the bible to be taken seriously?
No, I did not say you can not take everything in the Holy Bible
literally. You can take it literally if you want to and it may be
correct to do so. I only said that everything in the Holy Bible
may not be intended by the author to be taken literally. I don't
know. I was only speculating based on the question.
29 Dec 11
Originally posted by FMFI have no authority. All authority in heaven and earth belongs to Christ.
So when you condemn fellow Christians - or even assert that they are not really Christians, or that they are Satanic etc. etc. - for their exercise of their individual prerogative [to pick and choose the literalness of sections of the bible], with what justification or authority do you do that? If you want others to accept or respect your freedom to interpret th ...[text shortened]... cially when you admit that your assertion of autonomy-to-interpret is not a Christian doctrine?
I only assert my beliefs, which we all are free to do in my country
because we honor freedom of speech. I believe all Christians should
be at least as free as I am to speak up for their beliefs while at the same
time allowing me the freedom to critique and disagree.
29 Dec 11
Originally posted by sonhouseThe authors where human beings like us. The only difference is that they
But the author was god wasn't it? Are you saying GOD did not want everything in the bible to be taken seriously?
were inspired by God to write what they did. Our understanding of what
they wrote may or may not be inspired. If not, we may misunderstand
the inspired writings and take something meant to be prophetic as
literal or vice versa. There are sometimes when I may be inspired by
God also; but the majority of the time I am uninspired.