@whodey saidIf infidelity was part of the scenario, I would have mentioned it. You have no need to embellish or add to what I said in the OP which is about real people, whodey. Whether or not you "think the guy gave up women" is not the issue. Start a thread about infidelity and divorce if you want. The question here is about 1 Corinthians 7 verses 12-16.
Just being real
Do you really think the guy gave up women?
Really?
27 Feb 19
@whodey saidRight, so there is Biblical grounds to tell people to not get married to unbelievers in that way...
2 Corinthians 6:14
Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?
Its just good common sense really. Whatever makes you tick, you best share it with whom you marry.
But there are many people who believe that the phrase unequally yoked does not refer to the relationship with an unbeliever itself rendering you unequally yoked, but refers to the concept of being unequally yoked being the problem.
To be equally yoked with a non-believer is funny.
Paul is warning them to not enter into a relationship where you are made into a sort of subordinate or powerless person below a non-believer.
This site says that, at least, and I believe it is actually Protestant:
https://bible-truths.com/yoked.htm
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@philokalia said:
“But there are many people who believe that the phrase unequally yoked does not refer to the relationship with an unbeliever itself rendering you unequally yoked, but refers to the concept of being unequally yoked being the problem.”
So a believer and an unbeliever can be “equally yoked”?
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@whodey saidWhy can’t you just answer the question instead being a twit?
Just being real
Do you really think the guy gave up women?
Really?
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@fmf saidIt’s abandonment, isn’t it. Is there something I’m missing?
If infidelity was part of the scenario, I would have mentioned it. You have no need to embellish or add to what I said in the OP which is about real people, whodey. Whether or not you "think the guy gave up women" is not the issue. Start a thread about infidelity and divorce if you want. The question here is about 1 Corinthians 7 verses 12-16.
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@divegeester saidHe texts every day to wish his wife and his children his love and tells them he will be home soon and asks them to pray for him in the hope that whatever the latest hairbrained "dead cert" scheme he's involved in in the capital city is going to be The One [which will settle all the debts from shady people that drove him away from his home town and allow them all to sit pretty thereon] and he doesn't want a divorce [although that is a civil matter and not a religious one] and my friend, the wife, the Protestant Christian, is deeply conflicted because she wants to move on while also having a bit of a "Catholic" attitude to divorce, if you know what I mean.
It’s abandonment, isn’t it. Is there something I’m missing?
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@fmf saidIn this culture, women are very often simply expected to endure dysfunctional marriages and they will be widely perceived to have been at fault if they do divorce, regardless of the facts. She's a civil servant too, and being a divorcee can count against her for the purposes of her career arc, and her children [14, 17 and 21 years old, all staunch Christians] don't like the idea of her divorcing... so the least she can do is seek her church's and her pastor's blessing.
She wants to divorce but wants to do it with her [Protestant] church's blessing.
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@fmf saidIt’s abandonment in my opinion. But she is obviously in a difficult situation. I would encourage her to create an ultimatum for him. If the church will not support her then she should consider leaving it/them and rely on friends such as yourself for moral and practical support.
He texts every day to wish his wife and his children his love and tells them he will be home soon and asks them to pray for him in the hope that whatever the latest hairbrained "dead cert" scheme he's involved in in the capital city is going to be The One [which will settle all the debts from shady people that drove him away from his home town and allow them all to sit pretty the ...[text shortened]... nts to move on while also having a bit of a "Catholic" attitude to divorce, if you know what I mean.
Easy for me to say, I know.
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So he doesn't want to get divorced and claims that he is not sending money due to his failures at gaining money.
If he is lying, or this is more to this story, maybe the grounds exist for divorce, but at this point... it seems less likely that this is what needs to be done.
Interesting scenario, though.
27 Feb 19
@divegeester saidSure.
@philokalia said:
“But there are many people who believe that the phrase unequally yoked does not refer to the relationship with an unbeliever itself rendering you unequally yoked, but refers to the concept of being unequally yoked being the problem.”
So a believer and an unbeliever can be “equally yoked”?
Imagine a friendship where neither party has any debt or intention of accruing debt.
Imagine a job or business deal with a thorough contract both parties find fair.
Or even imagine a marriage that is made on the grounds of allowing for the attendance of church and baptism of children with an unbeleiver, no exchanges of dowries or resources and a general equality of gender, etc...
I think unequally yoked would involve putting yourself in a position where you have the lower hand (or the upper hand, theoertically) with a nonbeliever.
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@philokalia saidSo, based on what I have said, you don't think 1 Corinthians 7 applies?
If he is lying, or this is more to this story, maybe the grounds exist for divorce, but at this point... it seems less likely that this is what needs to be done.
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@philokalia saidWho are you replying to?
So he doesn't want to get divorced and claims that he is not sending money due to his failures at gaining money.
If he is lying, or this is more to this story, maybe the grounds exist for divorce, but at this point... it seems less likely that this is what needs to be done.
Interesting scenario, though.