Originally posted by karoly aczel
Could I get a couple of scientific answers from anyone? Like 1.the start of homsapiens,2.the start and end of dinosaurs.
(I have some reports that humans lived with dinosaurs, but not because dinosaurs came so late but besause humans have been around for longer than we think.)
And no, I'm not taking it to science,spanky.

The mtDNA evidence suggets Homo Sapiens originated about 200,000yrs ago.

Dinsoaurs lived from 230million years ago and died out about 65million years ago.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
so the carrobie or whover claims there were dinos on the ark was mistaken?????

Sorry to disappoint you Zippy but carrobies do not profess that there were Dinos on da ark. I think it was Kelly who tried to make the case although admittedly his evidence was mostly conjecture, interesting though it was.

i placed an or in my sentence

so basically i can say that the carrobie or hitler was a jew killing nazi and i would be perfectly correct.

Originally posted by rwingett
There's a remote chance that someone lurking on this thread is captivated by your ridiculous flights of fancy and is secretly hoping to learn more about God's frozen dinosaur treats. Perhaps they're just too embarrassed to ask. Why don't you point out the relevant passages for their sake?

At least my 'Jesus as a socialist' interpretation has some solid scriptural footing.

The solid Scriptural footing to which you refer demands that only a superficial rendering be heard, while at the same time also requires a complete exclusion from all remaining Scripture--- often times in the words just prior to or immediately following the passages you cite.

As is consistent with God's method of conveying truth, one must be exposed to multiple passages of the Bible in order to get a true picture of even simple aspects. There is not one verse which points to the events I am describing: there are many which create a mosaic of the same.

However, if you really want to start digging in (although I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why you would really care), start with Genesis 1:1-3.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
The solid Scriptural footing to which you refer demands that only a superficial rendering be heard, while at the same time also requires a complete exclusion from all remaining Scripture--- often times in the words just prior to or immediately following the passages you cite.

As is consistent with God's method of conveying truth, one must be exposed to ...[text shortened]... I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why you would really care), start with Genesis 1:1-3.

so basically you ask him to start with the beginning of the bible and read it all, choose which verses he thinks you think support your ideas, all of this only for the joy of proving your point?


hey i love your manner of debating. here is another one:
My claim: The bible offers a clear view of Harry Potter's world of magic, and J.K. Rowling plagiarised it. To understand this, you "must be exposed to multiple passages of the Bible in order to get a true picture of even simple aspects" of this claim. "There is not one verse which points to the events I am describing: there are many which create a mosaic of the same."
However, if you really want to start digging in (although I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why you would really care), start with Genesis 1:1.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
The solid Scriptural footing to which you refer demands that only a superficial rendering be heard, while at the same time also requires a complete exclusion from all remaining Scripture--- often times in the words just prior to or immediately following the passages you cite.

As is consistent with God's method of conveying truth, one must be exposed to ...[text shortened]... I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why you would really care), start with Genesis 1:1-3.

I haven't been taking whatever it is you're on. I fail to see anything relating to frozen dinosaurs in Genesis. I, on the other hand, can give you very specific passages which support my argument (as I have done numerous times in the past):

Acts 2:42-45

42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. 43 Everyone was filled with awe, and many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles. 44 And all that believed were together, and had all things in common; 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

the message is repeated

Acts 4:32-37

32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. 33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. 34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. 36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus, 37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

Read it and weep, Freaky. That Jesus was a de facto socialist has a far greater scriptural basis than your frozen dinosaurs. Or for a lot of other things that Christians typically like to believe.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
so basically you ask him to start with the beginning of the bible and read it all, choose which verses he thinks you think support your ideas, all of this only for the joy of proving your point?


hey i love your manner of debating. here is another one:
My claim: The bible offers a clear view of Harry Potter's world of magic, and J.K. Rowling plagiarise ...[text shortened]... cannot, for the life of me, figure out why you would really care), start with Genesis 1:1.

I take it you didn't actually read the verses to which I pointed?

Let's break 'em down for ya.

In beginning he created Elohim the heavens and the earth and the earth she became chaos and vacancy and darkness over the surfaces of abyss and spirit of Elohim vibrating over surfaces of the waters

What make thee of this?

Originally posted by rwingett
I haven't been taking whatever it is you're on. I fail to see anything relating to frozen dinosaurs in Genesis. I, on the other hand, can give you very specific passages which support my argument (as I have done numerous times in the past):

Acts 2:42-45
[quote]42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of ...[text shortened]... r frozen dinosaurs. Or for a lot of other things that Christians typically like to believe.

Know much about history?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
The mtDNA evidence suggets Homo Sapiens originated about 200,000yrs ago.

Dinsoaurs lived from 230million years ago and died out about 65million years ago.

Ok.Thank you ever so much. I will quote these numbers in the future...seems the theory I came across was way off according to these numbers, still 200 000 years is a long time and allows a fair amount of discrepency between the biblical geneology and the dna evidemce

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
I take it you didn't actually read the verses to which I pointed?

Let's break 'em down for ya.

In beginning he created Elohim the heavens and the earth and the earth she became chaos and vacancy and darkness over the surfaces of abyss and spirit of Elohim vibrating over surfaces of the waters

What make thee of this?

If you have a point to make, please make it.

Originally posted by rwingett
If you have a point to make, please make it.

One thing we know is that Dinosaurs existed. We just don't for absolute how long ago that they were here. I know young earther's believe that they were here before the flood. (Of course some here don't believe in a flood) Some I believe say it was the flood that wiped them out. I heard/read that they may have been on the ark but died soon after because the earth had changed so drastically. Then again I've heard stories of people having run ins with Dinosaurs in modern times. What is Lockeness ?? Also look at Komodo dragons me thinks those are modern day dinosars. I don't think it should shake up peoples faith so much.

http://www.dragonorama.com/real/komodo.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komodo_dragon

Manny

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
As though it would make a difference...

The dinosaurs were from an age of the earth's history which predates man's time on the same. Prior to man's appearance (during the re-creation of earth, which spawned the Garden of Eden), this planet was the playground for God's first creative group.

While they were here, so were dinosaurs. Because of a Certa ...[text shortened]... an pick up? We're in the middle of that trial currently (pssst: the answer is 'yes!'😉.

Everyone in the audience is now dumber.

Originally posted by menace71
One thing we know is that Dinosaurs existed. We just don't for absolute how long ago that they were here. I know young earther's believe that they were here before the flood. (Of course some here don't believe in a flood) Some I believe say it was the flood that wiped them out. I heard/read that they may have been on the ark but died soon after because the ...[text shortened]... //www.dragonorama.com/real/komodo.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komodo_dragon

Manny

Here's an article with good pictures:

http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=124&a=1236

Originally posted by rwingett
I haven't been taking whatever it is you're on. I fail to see anything relating to frozen dinosaurs in Genesis. I, on the other hand, can give you very specific passages which support my argument (as I have done numerous times in the past):

Acts 2:42-45
[quote]42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of ...[text shortened]... r frozen dinosaurs. Or for a lot of other things that Christians typically like to believe.

Impressive!

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
I take it you didn't actually read the verses to which I pointed?

Let's break 'em down for ya.

In beginning he created Elohim the heavens and the earth and the earth she became chaos and vacancy and darkness over the surfaces of abyss and spirit of Elohim vibrating over surfaces of the waters

What make thee of this?

dinosaurs!!!!!

Originally posted by LemonJello
Everyone in the audience is now dumber.

And it was previously held not possible.