Jews in the Second Temple period were notoriously strict in their religious (and otherwise) conduct, particularly in Judea and the surrounding area.
This might suggest that Jesus of Nazareth could have died chaste, but in truth, how can we really know? We can believe, and many do, but we cannot know.
Originally posted by divegeester The problem is nobody knows (as BW corectly pointed out) and furthermore nobody cares.
What i mean is that people will often speculates based on there belief system and viewpoint: Christians will not even consider it a possbility because invaldates the NT position, and most non-Christians don't really care and those who do probably hope he got laid at lot because a) blokes should, and b) because it invalidates the NT position.
God knows, God cares.
"and most non-Christians don't really care".
Exactly then why are they posting in here?
I don't think anyone should unless they are married.
Another point that all would need to consider is that Jesus was physically perfect in health. He had to be in order to be the sacrifice needed to take the place of Adam. He could still be alive on earth today if he hadn't been killed.
Since he was perfect and if he had been married, what would his children have been like physically? Perfect like him or some hybrid offspring?
Lots to think about here....
Originally posted by bbarr The Oxford English Dictionary says otherwise about 'virgin'. See definitions 6 and 7. Hell, even Chaucer used 'virgin' in reference Jesus explicitly, and that was over 600 years ago.
That does no make the term correct. Virginity=maidenhead.
Originally posted by FMF People are queuing up here to make fools of themselves.
Do you really think this spiritual/doctrinal question is going to be settled by selecting only one out of half a dozen dictionary definitions and pretending that this freefloating selectivity is how one cancels out the premise of a question?
Only the premise of abundantly foolish questions. That's all. You have got to be proud of yourself with so many people queuing up to oblige. After all, according to you Christians are fools, liberals=smart, nuanced. If you are so intrigued by virginity perhaps you ought to start by reading up on biology. Vastly less complex than theology. Then crack open the good book and try and understand instead of offering utterly stupid critique about what you evidently so poorly understand.
Originally posted by scacchipazzo Only the premise of abundantly foolish questions. That's all. You have got to be proud of yourself with so many people queuing up to oblige. After all, according to you Christians are fools, liberals=smart, nuanced. If you are so intrigued by virginity perhaps you ought to start by reading up on biology. Vastly less complex than theology. Then crack ope ...[text shortened]... tand instead of offering utterly stupid critique about what you evidently so poorly understand.
You seem to be taking this ever so personally. I hope things sort themselves out for you.
Originally posted by generalissimo if he wasn't, so what? that doesn't make him any less holy.
Well apparently there is the question of fornication, sin, lawlessness, immorality, pre-marital or extra-marital sex, ... so, what does your "so what?" mean?
Originally posted by scacchipazzo crack open the good book and try and understand instead of offering utterly stupid critique about what you evidently so poorly understand.
Originally posted by FMF Well apparently there is the question of fornication, sin, lawlessness, immorality, pre-marital or extra-marital sex, ... so, what does your "so what?" mean?