Christian Roots of White Supremacy

@fmf said
Yes. I don't think you have been conversing in good faith. Sorry, KellyJay. You've spologized for such things before, after a suitable pause

I'm not apologizing for squat here, I've answered every question put to me, and you simply dismiss me.

@kellyjay said
I object to any and every color being used not just white.

How does this work then? We can say that the slaves in the US were black? Or do you object to their colour being mentioned? And you object to their owners being referred to as white? You refuse to acknowledge that white supremacists were behind the institution of slavery in the US because you object to the word white being used? Regardless of whether they were black or white, they were all "sinners", is that how it works?

@fmf said
How does this work then? We can say that the slaves in the US were black? Or do you object to their colour being mentioned? And you object to their owners being referred to as white? You refuse to acknowledge that white supremacists were behind the institution of slavery in the US because you object to the word white being used? Regardless of whether they were black or white, they were all "sinners", is that how it works?

There were many people behind slavery, and not all of them were white; as a matter of fact, not all slave owners were white either, convenient facts being overlooked here. My point is that when using words like supremacist, adding color to that word smears everyone of that color; I don't care what color they are, white black, it doesn't matter. The same thing is true when we apply color to extremists; I'm repeating myself because you consider this type of speak mind-numbing faith speech whatever that is in your mind, outside of something you can say to dismiss people you are talking to without actually engaging in specifics. So when you are going to paint an entire race as if they were the only ones with a hand in a despicable piece of human history and leave out others, I have to ask, why?

@kellyjay said
I don't care what color they are, white black, it doesn't matter. The same thing is true when we apply color to extremists

So, should we not acknowledge that the slaves in the US in the C19th were black and that their owners were white?

@fmf said
So, should we not acknowledge that the slaves in the US in the C19th were black and that their owners were white?

Many were.

@kellyjay said
My point is that when using words like supremacist, adding color to that word smears everyone of that color

So you feel that talk of white supremacists "smears" you and "smears" all white people? And you feel that talking about how white Christians in your country - who had notions about their own racial superiority -and who enslaved black people, "smears" you?

@kellyjay said
Many were.

Do you believe that white Christians who owned black slaves in the US in the C19th believed that their racial superiority entitled them to own black human beings as chattel?

@kellyjay said
So when you are going to paint an entire race as if they were the only ones with a hand in a despicable piece of human history and leave out others, I have to ask, why?

But no one is "painting an entire race" when they talk about white supremacists. You are making stuff up. I also have to ask why. Why does people talking about white supremacy make you so defensive?

@kellyjay said
I'm repeating myself because you consider this type of speak mind-numbing faith speech whatever that is in your mind, outside of something you can say to dismiss people you are talking to without actually engaging in specifics.

What do you mean I am not "actually engaging in specifics"? What posts are you reading? I am specifically talking about the Christian roots of white supremacy: it's specifically the thread title. And I am talking specifically about slavery in your country in the C19th, And those who were enslaved were specifically black. What on Earth do you mean I am not "actually engaging in specifics"?

The Republicans might consider asking KellyJay to design a school curriculum for the American south in 2022 for the topic of slavery in the US. He could ban the use of the words "white" and "black" in the classroom.

@fmf said
But no one is "painting an entire race" when they talk about white supremacists. You are making stuff up. I also have to ask why. Why does people talking about white supremacy make you so defensive?

Do you believe there are racists in every race?

Specifically, do you believe black racists exist?

@pb1022 said
Do you believe there are racists in every race?

Specifically, do you believe black racists exist?

[1] Of course there are. Maybe "Why are there racists in every race?" would make a good thread.

[2] Of course they exist. Maybe "Do black racists exist?" would make a good thread. This thread is called "Christian Roots of White Supremacy"

@fmf said
So you feel that talk of white supremacists "smears" you and "smears" all white people? And you feel that talking about how white Christians in your country - who had notions about their own racial superiority -and who enslaved black people, "smears" you?

I have said why I think it's wrong; apparently, you ignored it all, thinking it was 'faith speech,' so I'm not going to repeat myself.

@kellyjay said
I have said why I think it's wrong; apparently, you ignored it all, thinking it was 'faith speech,' so I'm not going to repeat myself.

So when someone mentions white supremacists you feel smeared?

@fmf said
So when someone mentions white supremacists you feel smeared?

Faith speech