Christ as The Angel of Jehovah

@sonship said
@Rajk999

I really dont know why they tolerate him.

Perhaps some tolerate my participation because they notice that you, though you hurl names and insults, are never able to effectively prove what I wrote was not biblical.

@Rajk999

You are living in a delusion. People think you have serious mental and emotional issues. You quote from a manipulated bible created by Watchman Nee or some other cult leader, and your doctrine runs contrary to Christ. Ghost, an atheist has read sufficient of Witness Lee's writings, and has posted some rather disturbing doctrines from him which claim to be Christian.

Say 'O Lord' 3 times and you are saved? Really ??

Some time ago you were carrying on about numerology, 7s and 12s. These things and condemned in the bible and its the work and doctrine of Satan.

Here God is teaching that He is SO very WILLING and WANTING to save us.
Isaiah 65:24

"And it will be that before they call, I will answer; Even while they are speaking, I will hear."

Forget about having to call three times. IF you turn your heart to the Lord He may answer you even before you get the words out.

Think of the parable of the prodigal son. The prodigal son returns in shame with a speech ready to give his father whom he is jilted.

The loving and waiting father is so eagerly waiting for his son to return that he RUNS to him seeing him afar off. Jesus was showing the willingness of the Father God to rush to us with pardon and forgiveness.

See Luke 15:11-32.

In this spirit once Witness Lee encouraged the gospel preaching brothers and sisters that the eager Savior will save sinners even when they come with a little faith to turn to Jesus - calling on His name.

It is pure ignorance on the part of some critics that the END of all matters is just to speak to the Lord calling on His name.

There is a time and a place for various things. There is a time to bring men into contact, their FIRST contact with Jesus Christ. It is rather mysterious to pin point at what nanosecond the unbeliever becomes a believer. Many of you who have been regenerated know full well that in one moment you didn't want God and somehow in the next moment you had faith and wanted Him.

It is a mercy that any Christian got saved from their former unwillingness and unbelief. Ghost the atheist is trying to exploit the matter.

Once again, here God shows He is so willing to save that let alone three calls, even BEFORE some call He will come to rescue.

"And it will be that before they call, I will answer; Even while they are speaking, I will hear." (Isa. 65:24)

The point is that God KNOWS our heart. His understanding of our heart down to the millionth of a second is crystal clear to Him.

Who knows always the threshold nanosecond when a willing man goes from unbelief to belief and the Holy Spirit of God rushes into His heart with all the divine eagerness of a father waiting for his estranged son to return.

@sonship said
It is pure ignorance on the part of some critics that the END of all matters is just to speak to the Lord calling on His name.

There is a time and a place for various things. There is a time to bring men into contact, their FIRST contact with Jesus Christ. It is rather mysterious to pin point at what nanosecond the unbeliever becomes a believer. Many of you who have be ...[text shortened]... es into His heart with all the divine eagerness of a father waiting for his estranged son to return.

@rajk999 said
Did Witness Lee remove this passage from his fake bible

For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.(1 Peter 3:12 KJV)

There are several such statements like these. Note the wording -
It did not say the eyes of the Lord are over the faithful
It did not say the e ...[text shortened]... nce around here is from your mouth.
Christians who listen to this FALSE TEACHER SONSHIP, take note.

@pb1022 said

Do you know what righteousness in the Holy Bible means? It means to have right standing with God.

@sonship said
It is pure ignorance on the part of some critics that the END of all matters is just to speak to the Lord calling on His name.

There is a time and a place for various things. There is a time to bring men into contact, their FIRST contact with Jesus Christ. It is rather mysterious to pin point at what nanosecond the unbeliever becomes a believer. Many of you who have be ...[text shortened]... es into His heart with all the divine eagerness of a father waiting for his estranged son to return.

@sonship said
This thread will be able Christ revealed in the Old Testament sometimes as the Angel of Jehovah. How this Messenger of Jehovah and Jehovah Himself are virtually interchangeable.

It may help with some Bible readers weary of God's triune-ness.

@rajk999 said
And here comes another of your fabricated church expressions to add to the long line of madeup words, designed to twist the bible

Right standing with God
Its not in the bible

Here are some others :
Trinity
Truine
Relationship with God
Relationship with Christ
Personal Relationship with God
Personal Relationship with Chrsit
Intimate Relationship with G ...[text shortened]... [NOT IN THE BIBLE AT ALL}... now that is important
LOL ,,,,😀 [/b]

Your doctrine is baloney.

@divegeester said
Sonship are you one of the “leading brothers” in the Lord’s Recovery movement?

It is important to see that Paul said that Jesus was not only the sinners' propitiation but our PLACE of propitiation. Jesus is a place where propitiation for sins takes place - in Him, ON Him if you will.

Sure that's what Paul teaches. Right here. The Recovery Version really brings it our in translation.

"Being justified freely by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; Whom God set forth as a propitiation place through faith in His blood, . . . " (Rom. 3:24,25a) RcV)

copied carefully as possible by hand, the footnote of says -

"In the Old Testament, the expiation cover, the lid of the Ark, as a type, was hidden in the Holy of Holies; in the New Testament, Christ as the propitiation place, the reality of the expiation cover, is openly set forth before all men."

@PB1022

What part of John 6:40, Galatians 2:21 and Galatians 2:16 did you not understand?

Right standing with God means the same as justified before God.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
God presented Him as a propitiation through faith in His blood, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His restraint God passed over the sins previously committed.

American Standard Version
whom God set forth to be a propitiation, through faith, in his blood, to show his righteousness because of the passing over of the sins done aforetime, in the forbearance of God;

Christian Standard Bible
God presented him as the mercy seat by his blood, through faith, to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his restraint God passed over the sins previously committed.

Literal Standard Version
whom God set forth [as] a propitiatory covering, through faith in His blood, for the showing forth of His righteousness, because of the passing over of the former sins in the forbearance of God

Darby Bible Translation
whom God has set forth a mercy-seat, through faith in his blood, for [the] shewing forth of his righteousness, in respect of the passing by the sins that had taken place before, through the forbearance of God;

@rajk999 said

Say 'O Lord' 3 times and you are saved? Really ??

@kevin-eleven said
You have to stand in front of a mirror when you say that.

Too afraid to try?

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