16 Dec 12
Originally posted by RJHindsFor each of the parables and leaving out the Kingdom of Heaven, what do you believe that Jesus is saying about capitalism as an economic system? Are you asserting that He is approving of capitalism as an economic system via these parables?
I don't see how you think I am avoiding the questions. I answered you and I don't see how I could make it clearer. Jesus was using capitalism as an example of how things work in the Kingdom of Heaven. In the example of the hired workers, it is up to the employer to negotiate and pay the workers what he wishes to pay those willing to work. He does not hav ...[text shortened]... nwilling to work to do the right thing will get nothing but gnashing of teeth in both systems.
16 Dec 12
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneJesus was speaking of abundant life, not abundant treasures on Earth. One should be able to earn wealth while on earth and use it to enjoy life with others and not just hoard it away and live like a begger. But the idea goes beyond earning wealth to spend, but on getting the opportunity to do things in life that are enjoyable. We can also enjoy helping others and at the same time please our heavenly Father, who will reward us with joy in the life to come. This is really the abundant life which I believe jesus was speaking about. There is nothing wrong with earning riches on Earth if they are used in the right way.
It's really sad how so many take a word out of context (to prop up their selfish desires) so that they can turn a deaf ear to the meaning of the teachings of Jesus.
Matthew 6
19“[b]Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20“But store up for yourselves treasures in he ...[text shortened]... s speaking of "abundant" "teasures on earth"?
"He who has ears to hear, let him hear."
16 Dec 12
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneelaborate: i am just trying to point out rjhinds is insane, and doesn't understand the bible. so just ignore him
[b]the parable of talents is not about capitalism even if the talents would mean material wealth like rj said. because if anything screams capitalism is working your ass off to multiply someone else's wealth according to him.
Not sure what you're trying to say here given what I've posted on this thread. Can you elaborate?
the talents represe ...[text shortened]... f following His teachings, i.e., the will of God, rather than just spreading "the message".
"Jesus was speaking of following His teachings"
it is not enough. read the talents parable again and you will see that the third worker did exactly that and he upset the "master". if this meaning is the correct one, you must also help others to be better people, effectively "multiplying" the talents.
it could also mean how one not living up to ones potential will upset god, like an intelligent person cleaning the streets instead of curing cancer or something. being a parable, it can have multiple meanings.
what it absolutely isn't, is a praise to capitalism.
16 Dec 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySurely you understand that what needs to be reconciled is the 'prosperity gospel' with the passage from Matthew 6. Why the pretense?
RJ can reconcile his own posts with your points of view should
he choose to do so. NFL Games to watch. Be back later...
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16 Dec 12
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Originally posted by RJHindsWell, you're certainly not the first person who chooses to place his/her own desires above the explicit teachings of Jesus.
Jesus was speaking of abundant life, not abundant treasures on Earth. One should be able to earn wealth while on earth and use it to enjoy life with others and not just hoard it away and live like a begger. But the idea goes beyond earning wealth to spend, but on getting the opportunity to do things in life that are enjoyable. We can also enjoy helping ot ...[text shortened]... g about. There is nothing wrong with earning riches on Earth if they are used in the right way.
Matthew 6
19“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20“But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal; 21for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
24“No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.
As Gandhi said:
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
16 Dec 12
Originally posted by ZahlanziQuite frankly, I'm still not sure what point RJ is trying to make. He refuses to say.
elaborate: i am just trying to point out rjhinds is insane, and doesn't understand the bible. so just ignore him
"Jesus was speaking of following His teachings"
it is not enough. read the talents parable again and you will see that the third worker did exactly that and he upset the "master". if this meaning is the correct one, you must also help other ...[text shortened]... it can have multiple meanings.
what it absolutely isn't, is a praise to capitalism.
read the talents parable again and you will see that the third worker did exactly that and he upset the "master".
You lost me here. "Did exactly" what?
16 Dec 12
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Originally posted by ThinkOfOneNo pretense, whatever. Genuine charity, locally administered, in no way militates against sound and proven principles of free enterprise conveying prosperity. What axe must you have to grind? Gradually the impression's building that you're no different than this forum's majority, bent on arguing for its own sake all day long... deeply motivated by boredom; a general disappointment in life; paralysis of ennui; and a world class, vintage angst. When you regain your senses and decide the pursuit of absolute truth still stands alone as the only life priority worth having, before becoming suicidal give me a call... (gb)
Surely you understand that what needs to be reconciled is the 'prosperity gospel' with the passage from Matthew 6. Why the pretense?
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17 Dec 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyNo axe. Perhaps your crystal ball needs polishing?
No pretense, whatever. Genuine charity, locally administered, in no way militates against sound and proven principles of free enterprise conveying prosperity. What axe must you have to grind? Gradually the impression's building that you're no different than this forum's majority, bent on arguing for its own sake all day long... deeply motivated by bored ...[text shortened]... ne as the only life priority worth having, before becoming suicidal give me a call... (gb)
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