14 Nov 06
Originally posted by StarrmanHmmm, I just said something like that in another thread. I don't think anyone is a good Christian, when they impose on others more than they should. They omit faith when they need to control. It should be balanced, but that could be hard when they go from a church and then into other places. God should still survive any environment if Christians have humility.
I should clarify, when I say 'True' Christian I refer to a particular type of Christian that some of the forum's posters have defined above and beyond the everyday claim to belief. Like I say, I'll try and find the appropriate post from before.
14 Nov 06
Originally posted by StarrmanPost-death co-habitation of Paradise.
I'm intrigued as to whether those of dj2becker's ilk - claiming that there is only one true version of Christianity (theirs by definition) - are able to recognise other 'true' christians. If so, is it by secret power? What other processes might allow a satisfactory assessment of potential brothers in god?
14 Nov 06
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Originally posted by lucifershammerOkay, so if I don't want to wait, I'd have to kill the person in question first, and then kill myself. If my brand of Christianity says "once saved, always saved", it's that simple. If my brand of Christianity says you need to repent your sins before you die, I'll have to choose a suicide method which ensures that I'll still have time to repent. If my brand of Christianity says that God might not like such tricks, it would probably safer to wait.
Post-death co-habitation of Paradise.
There's another possible problem - what if the other person ends up in a region of Heaven far away from mine? I would guess that Heaven must be quite big. Is there a reception where I can ask, and are they allowed to answer, or do they have to keep such information confidential?
14 Nov 06
Originally posted by NordlysMaybe there's a map at the entrance.
Okay, so if I don't want to wait, I'd have to kill the person in question first, and then kill myself. If my brand of Christianity says "once saved, always saved", it's that simple. If my brand of Christianity says you need to repent your sins before you die, I'll have to choose a suicide method which ensures that I'll still have time to repent. If my brand ...[text shortened]... , and are they allowed to answer, or do they have to keep such information confidential?
14 Nov 06
Originally posted by NordlysAt some cemeteries in the states, there's a small building at the front with a map dividing the graves into sections. Then there's a little ATM looking thingy where you can enter the name of the deceased you're looking for and it will give you the section they are in. I'm sure God could use this system for Heaven; it's not like He can be sued for patent infringement.
That won't help if you don't know the address.
14 Nov 06
Originally posted by no1marauderThere's still the confidentiality issue, though. They might not be willing to give out personal information, especially considering that the person you are looking for is someone you have just murdered.
At some cemeteries in the states, there's a small building at the front with a map dividing the graves into sections. Then there's a little ATM looking thingy where you can enter the name of the deceased you're looking for and it will give you the section they are in. I'm sure God could use this system for Heaven; it's not like He can be sued for patent infringement.
14 Nov 06
Originally posted by StarrmanIt's the scent of fear and self-loathing that tips off Christians to the presence of their brethren.
I'm intrigued as to whether those of dj2becker's ilk - claiming that there is only one true version of Christianity (theirs by definition) - are able to recognise other 'true' christians. If so, is it by secret power? What other processes might allow a satisfactory assessment of potential brothers in god?
14 Nov 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHIt's not me who thinks that humankind is essentially wicked and in need of redemption, nor that redemption required the bloody sacrifice of an innocent, nor that minor cultural transgressions can be properly punished by death, nor that our moral exemplar is en entity that ordered genocide.
Says the one person who knows better than anyone what self-loathing is all about. Now that's priceless. 😵
14 Nov 06
Originally posted by bbarrNot essentially wicked? Please explain the Holocaust.
It's not me who thinks that humankind is essentially wicked and in need of redemption, nor that redemption required the bloody sacrifice of an innocent, nor that minor cultural transgressions can be properly punished by death, nor that our moral exemplar is en entity that ordered genocide.
15 Nov 06
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According to the Bible (Mark 16)...
16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/16.html#17
So...Christians perform exorcisms, make up new languages, carry snakes around, are immune to ingested poison, and can cure disease by laying on hands. That's how you know who they are.
