Originally posted by karoly aczelNo, no, no.
I don't get it.
Isn't faith for those aren't 100% sure?
If they were sure then they wouldn't need faith (?)
As I just said to KJ, faith is why we are 100% sure.
Faith isn't some artificial "crutch" for those who aren't "sure".
It is the reason why we are sure.
14 Jun 17
Originally posted by FabianFnasFear not the one that can destroy the body, fear the one that can destroy the body and soul.
Two people is in a faulty airplane. They have to jump in order to avoid to die in the crash.
One jumps with a parachute.
One jumps with prayers.
Who will survive safely to the ground? Who has the faith? On what?
14 Jun 17
Originally posted by FabianFnasYou miss the point, not surprising.
Sacrificing the body but save the soul?
I would take the parachute, the other one can pray. That's what I would choose.
I have faith in the parachute.
Perhaps you could answer this question, why would the person who prays not use a parachute? Is it because there is only one so out of self sacrifice allowing the other to use it?
Originally posted by EladarYou miss the point of the anecdote. 'One jumps with a parachute. One jumps with prayers'.
All you have is personal attack?
Say it isn't so.
Perhaps you can explain why both could not use parachutes.
Of course both could have used parachutes, but that's not what has occurred. One has trusted themselves to God and one has trusted themselves to mans ingenuity.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeI thought he meant that one without parachute will live forever among the Virgins of the Paradise. The other one will land safely and, eh, just live. Who will be happier?
You miss the point of the anecdote. 'One jumps with a parachute. One jumps with prayers'.
Of course both could have used parachutes, but that's not what has occurred. One has trusted themselves to God and one has trusted themselves to mans ingenuity.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeWhen did this occur? In a bigot's mind?
You miss the point of the anecdote. 'One jumps with a parachute. One jumps with prayers'.
Of course both could have used parachutes, but that's not what has occurred. One has trusted themselves to God and one has trusted themselves to mans ingenuity.
Even though his bigotry is in line with your own, it is still bigotry.