Originally posted by RJHinds
You need to take remedial classes in Reading Comprehension.

a suggestion that you should take up. isaiah is quiet clear on who he thinks is the redeemer. try a different english translation if you're having difficulties with the KJV.

Isa 54:5 For your Maker is your husband, the LORD of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called.

quite clear to anyone with the remotest sense of reading comprehension. the redeemer is the god of israel. according to the context, it could stand for no other, the other titles listed off are proof of that.

P.S. You apparently don't care what John and Paul thinks either.
You are like the Ethiopian. You can not understand Isaiah
without someone to teach you. You think it is talking about
Israel, even the Ethiopian did not jump to that conclusion.

isaiah is quiet easy to understand if you actually read it. some alleged christian authority telling you what you need to hear is not a teaching.

now some bible study material for you:

who is the lord of hosts?
who is the husband of israel?
who is the holy one of israel?
who is called the god of the whole earth?

if you said jesus to any one of these, you need to go back to genesis and start over.

Originally posted by VoidSpirit

Originally posted by RJHinds
You need to take remedial classes in Reading Comprehension.

a suggestion that you should take up. isaiah is quiet clear on who he thinks is the redeemer. try a different english translation if you're having difficulties with the KJV.

[quote]Isa 54:5 For your Maker is your husband, the LORD of ...[text shortened]... arth?

if you said jesus to any one of these, you need to go back to genesis and start over.

You need to read what Jesus said and then read what God said to Moses
in Exodus to learn the answer to those questions.

Originally posted by RJHinds
You need to read what Jesus said and then read what God said to Moses
in Exodus to learn the answer to those questions.

let's see.

you have false attributions of isaiah's scripture to jesus.
you have jesus failing to fulfill even a single messianic prophecy.

in other words, you have nothing except a false hope on a false messiah.

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
let's see.

you have false attributions of isaiah's scripture to jesus.
you have jesus failing to fulfill even a single messianic prophecy.

in other words, you have nothing except a false hope on a false messiah.

You on the other hand have no hope at all.

Originally posted by RJHinds
You on the other hand have no hope at all.

hope is not necessary.

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
hope is not necessary.

Be strong and let your heart take courage, All you who hope in the LORD.
(Psalm 31:24)

Let Your lovingkindness, O LORD, be upon us, According as we have hoped
in You. (Psalm 33:22)

For Sheol cannot thank You, Death cannot praise You;
Those who go down to the pit cannot hope for Your faithfulness.
(Isaiah 38:18)

For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for who
hopes for what he already sees? But if we hope for what we do not see,
with perseverance we wait eagerly for it. (Romans 8:24-25

O LORD, the hope of Israel, All who forsake You will be put to shame.
Those who turn away on earth will be written down,
Because they have forsaken the fountain of living water, even the LORD.
(Jeremiah 17:13)

So are the paths of all who forget God; And the hope of the godless will
perish (Job 8:13)

For whatever was written in earlier times was written for our instruction,
so that through perseverance and the encouragement of the Scriptures
we might have hope. (Romans 15:4)

Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what
we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we
will see Him just as He is. And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him
purifies himself, just as He is pure. (1 John 3:2-3)