@divegeester said
But you seemed adamant when you said you “struggle to accept any kind of model for the universe that isn’t positively substantiated by empirical evidence.”
Sorry for the list but I asked about those two scenarios specifically because each hold an expectation that there is in fact more to the universe and our experience of it than just what empirical evidence tells us t ...[text shortened]... to be a “probably but we will never know”.
Each of these scenarios offer no empirical evidence.
“ But you seemed adamant when you said you “struggle to accept any kind of model for the universe that isn’t positively substantiated by empirical evidence.”
Yes that’s why, whilst not having an active belief in an entity because of a lack of empirical evidence for its existence. There is also no empirical evidence for the non existence of an entity. There may be an inconsistency in my thinking on this but I would need it to be explained to me.
“ Sorry for the list but I asked about those two scenarios specifically because each hold an expectation that there is in fact more to the universe and our experience of it than just what empirical evidence tells us there is. ”
Well I’m assuming that we are a long way from gathering all the empirical evidence that is available. Our experience of the universe is probably still quite limited. It seems to me the more we learn the more supernatural the universe gets but my analogy for that would be someone looking at a picture through one half closed eye.
‘Quantum Entanglement’ has been substantiated with empirical evidence but it looks pretty supernatural to me.
I think supernatural and beyond natural could be replaced with ‘we haven’t figured it out yet’ or not.
Do you think we are being visited by ‘space aliens’? To my mind they are either science fiction or science but ‘we haven’t figured it out yet’.