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Originally posted by josephwYou agree with it and yet you are quite clearly a religionist.
That I agree with.
Originally posted by karoly aczelOrganized religion, as rwingett pointed out, does serve a purpose as a
No. I more or less agree with your definition. Again, i just wanted to point out that organized religon is largely useless for making any real inroads on the spiritual path.
Originally posted by josephwReligion offers a system of teachings (often in the form of rituals & ceremonies) that shows people how to find the true meaning and purpose for their own lives and the communities they live in -- generally in the context of some transcendent reality, usually expressed as some deity or deities. Compassion, justice, and peace should be important themes.
It's my own and not necessarily accurate and true altogether. I'll debate with you about it, but I'm interested in your ideas or perceptions either way.
[b]Religion isn't spiritual. Religion is a system of rites, rituals and ceremonies designed by man for the purpose of ingratiating himself to his god by his(man's) good works. Thereby appeasing god.
...[text shortened]... o satisfy God.
Comments? If you insult me I'll spit in your eye and stomp on your foot.[/b]
Originally posted by alleeyBy definition a usurer is one that lends money at an exorbitant rate.
>> Allow me to abbreviate my definition. Religion sucks.
That's somewhat disheartening for a healthy debate when it comes from the originator. I'm doubtful now whether you really want to know-and-let-know or just around to vent. Therefore without going critical, I would like to point out that it is unjust to consider only the rites and rituals aspects of a ...[text shortened]... uette, cheats etc. World without religion is not possible, man only has a choice to expel God!
Originally posted by josephwI believe in James 1, sorry don't have my Bible handy at the moment, it says something to the effect that a pure religion is visiting the widow and orphan etc.
It's my own and not necessarily accurate and true altogether. I'll debate with you about it, but I'm interested in your ideas or perceptions either way.
[b]Religion isn't spiritual. Religion is a system of rites, rituals and ceremonies designed by man for the purpose of ingratiating himself to his god by his(man's) good works. Thereby appeasing god.
...[text shortened]... o satisfy God.
Comments? If you insult me I'll spit in your eye and stomp on your foot.[/b]
Originally posted by whodeyI recently read an article about bullying in which the problem was that certain kids were being "othered" by the rest - usually someone who was in some way "different" or "weird" -- and once someone is "othered", they can then be teased, mocked, ignored, and ultimately brutalized by everyone else, even the so-called good kids.
I believe in James 1, sorry don't have my Bible handy at the moment, it says something to the effect that a pure religion is visiting the widow and orphan etc.
Funny how you never hear that preached.
Originally posted by whodeyqrhskeiva: Transliterated; Threskeia, pronounced thrace-ki'-ah. Defined as, religious worship, external, that which consists of ceremonies and religious discipline.
I believe in James 1, sorry don't have my Bible handy at the moment, it says something to the effect that a pure religion is visiting the widow and orphan etc.
Funny how you never hear that preached.
Originally posted by RJHindsYes, the only way to make sure that the direction is correct is to have a clear insight into your own dharma, or have a suitable/guru/guide to point you in the right direction.
Organized religion, as rwingett pointed out, does serve a purpose as a
starting point to channel ones thoughts in a particular direction. However,
there is no guarantee the direction will be correct.
Originally posted by MelanerpesThe Bible is consistent in that it concerns itself with the oppressed. That means the poor, the stranger, or the widow. In fact, that is most of the focus of New and Old Testament.
I recently read an article about bullying in which the problem was that certain kids were being "othered" by the rest - usually someone who was in some way "different" or "weird" -- and once someone is "othered", they can then be teased, mocked, ignored, and ultimately brutalized by everyone else, even the so-called good kids.
I liked that term -- "ot ...[text shortened]... our next-door neighbors - how many of us want to completely "de-other" them?
Originally posted by whodeyYeah, I think Mother Teresa fulfills that scripture.
You be the judge RJ The scripture in question is James 1:27, go read it for yourself.
Originally posted by whodeyIf any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion [is] vain.
I believe in James 1, sorry don't have my Bible handy at the moment, it says something to the effect that a pure religion is visiting the widow and orphan etc.
Funny how you never hear that preached.