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    The perfect way out:
    There's no past/present/future.
    Dawn after dawn, the sun!
    Night after night, the moon!

    - Getsudo (1285-1361)
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    @rookie54 said
    “Sweep away thoughts!” means one must do zazen. Once thoughts are quieted, the Original Face appears. Thoughts can be compared to clouds—when clouds vanish, the moon appears. The moon of suchness is the Original Face.

    Thoughts are also like the fogging of a mirror—when you wipe away all condensation, a mirror reflects clearly. Quiet your thoughts and behold your Original ...[text shortened]... ---------

    when clouds vanish/disperse, the moon appears
    so easy for my simple mind to understand
    There is no moon. 😉
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    @rookie54 said
    The perfect way out:
    There's no past/present/future.
    Dawn after dawn, the sun!
    Night after night, the moon!

    - Getsudo (1285-1361)
    Sorry to clutter your thread, but I think this might just be an arbitrary choice and practice which is not necessarily optimal. It seems escapist and self-diminishing or self-truncating.

    Wouldn't it be enough to just appreciate being a walking stew of thoughts and humours without seeking some ideal "clear view"?

    Or maybe through awareness and acceptance, the stew clarifies itself.

    Okay, now I've just undermined my own post.

    So how about if the stew clarifies itself but still retains its complex flavors?
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    @caesar-salad said
    Sorry to clutter your thread, but I think this might just be an arbitrary choice and practice which is not necessarily optimal. It seems escapist and self-diminishing or self-truncating.

    Wouldn't it be enough to just appreciate being a walking stew of thoughts and humours without seeking some ideal "clear view"?

    Or maybe through awareness and acceptance, the stew ...[text shortened]... ed my own post.

    So how about if the stew clarifies itself but still retains its complex flavors?
    HA!!!
    i've been considering yer words for a few now and so have you

    excellent
    the plan is working to perfection
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    @rookie54 said
    HA!!!
    i've been considering yer words for a few now and so have you

    excellent
    the plan is working to perfection
    dammit!

    Also, I tend to over-season things, but you are someone I would allow in my kitchen to stay my hand.

    Also, it's 10:48 PM here, and three dots is at the top of the pops -- how can this be?!!!
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    @caesar-salad

    Wouldn't it be enough to just appreciate being a walking stew of thoughts and humours without seeking some ideal "clear view"?


    if this is good enough, so be it
    consider this, yer hiking a trail and chance upon a diamond in the rough
    what action/inaction will you take?
    and if that diamond is only valuable if you give it away?
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    @rookie54 said
    @caesar-salad

    Wouldn't it be enough to just appreciate being a walking stew of thoughts and humours without seeking some ideal "clear view"?


    if this is good enough, so be it
    consider this, yer hiking a trail and chance upon a diamond in the rough
    what action/inaction will you take?
    and if that diamond is only valuable if you give it away?
    Seems so hypothetical and I was just thinking maybe a little more oregano and black pepper.
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    Though night after night
    The moon is stream-reflected,
    Try to find where it has touched,
    Point even to a shadow.

    - Takuan (1573–1645)
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    The entire universe is one bright pearl.
    When the right time comes,
    The essence of the bright pearl can be grasped;
    It is suspended in emptiness,
    Hidden in the lining of clothes,
    Found under the chin of dragons
    And in the headdresses of kings.
    This pearl is always inside our clothing,
    That is, inside us, our real nature.
    Do not think about putting it on the surface;
    Is should be kept in headdresses and under jaws.
    Never attempt to wear it on the surface.

    - Dogen (1200-1253)
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    11 Jul '20 13:13
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/09/us/bon-jovi-new-jersey-meals-pandemic-cnnheroes/index.html

    this is a story about jon bon jovi and his small restaurant in new jersey where every meal bought also provides a meal for someone in need

    one day, i will eat there, and help provide food for another
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    If this doctrine is not understood thoroughly,
    The conception of an I prevails,
    Hence come virtuous and non-virtuous actions
    Which give rise to good and bad rebirths
    Therefore, as long as the doctrine of removing
    The conception of I is not known,
    Take heed of the practices
    Of giving, ethics and patience.

    - Nagarjuna
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    @rookie54 said
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/09/us/bon-jovi-new-jersey-meals-pandemic-cnnheroes/index.html

    this is a story about jon bon jovi and his small restaurant in new jersey where every meal bought also provides a meal for someone in need

    one day, i will eat there, and help provide food for another
    JBJ started Soul Kitchen after he met with a friend of mine, Denise Cerrata in SLC. Denise founded One World Eats Foundation and was awarded the James Beard Foundation Humanitarian of the Year Award. I worked with Denise, in 2005-2006, establishing an acre urban garden and organizing volunteers to work the garden that supported the pay-what-you-can restaurant Denise had started the Foundation with. Folks who couldn’t pay for their meals were encouraged to spend time with me in the garden. It was such a memorable time and I remember eating at the restaurant every day the summer of 2006.

    Denise continues her work on the Foundation, supporting restaurants like JBJ’s and I still keep in touch with Denise.

    https://www.jamesbeard.org/blog/2017-james-beard-foundation-humanitarian-of-the-year-denise-cerreta
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    One who is not a companion of myriad things has departed the toils of materialism.
    The mind does not recognize the mind, the eye does not see the eye;
    since there is no opposition,
    when you see forms there are no forms there to be seen,
    and when you hear sounds there are no sounds there to be heard.
    Is this not departing from the toils of materialism?

    - Foyan (1067–1120)
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    an excerpt from the tao te ching chapter 5
    J. Legge, Translator
    (Sacred Books of the East, Vol 39) [1891]

    'Tis emptied, yet it loses not its power;
    'Tis moved again, and sends forth air the more.
    Much speech to swift exhaustion lead we see;
    Your inner being guard, and keep it free.

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    when i figure out what this is,
    i'll do something
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    What happens to a dream deferred?
    Does it dry up
    Like a raisin in the sun?
    Or fester like a sore--
    And then run?
    Does it stink like rotten meat?
    Or crust and sugar over--
    like a syrupy sweet?
    Maybe it just sags
    like a heavy load.
    Or does it explode?


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