Third gravitational wave detection:

Third gravitational wave detection:

Science

Cookies help us deliver our Services. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Learn More.

s
Fast and Curious

slatington, pa, usa

Joined
28 Dec 04
Moves
53223
01 Jun 17

http://www.space.com/37049-gravitational-wave-experiment-detects-third-black-hole-merger.html?utm_source=notification

Looks like with the sensitivity as we have now produces a new detect about once every 3 months or so.

But sensitivity upgrades are in the works so smaller energetic events like 2 neutron stars colliding will be seen in a few years. And other detectors online simultaneously so direction to the events can be calculated. Right now they are detected at 1, 2 and 3 billion LY out.
But the energy of the two black hole mergers creates a burst of energy equal to the entire energy of the universe for that short period of time of the merger before it dies down. Even that amount of energy only creates a tiny amount of gravitational wave propagation though.

looking for loot

western colorado

Joined
05 Feb 11
Moves
9664
18 Jun 17

Originally posted by sonhouse
... smaller energetic events like 2 neutron stars colliding ...
Pretty sure we're just talking about math.

h

Joined
06 Mar 12
Moves
642
18 Jun 17
1 edit

Interesting.
Makes me seriously wonder what new discoveries this new science of detection could eventually lead to? Who knows.

s
Fast and Curious

slatington, pa, usa

Joined
28 Dec 04
Moves
53223
19 Jun 17

Originally posted by apathist
Pretty sure we're just talking about math.
Did you ever look at the technology involved? It's more than 'just' math.

s
Fast and Curious

slatington, pa, usa

Joined
28 Dec 04
Moves
53223
19 Jun 17

Originally posted by humy
Interesting.
Makes me seriously wonder what new discoveries this new science of detection could eventually lead to? Who knows.
They will get more information as to the direction of the source when they get more detectors online, due to the difference in timing of the pulses between two or three detectors.

mlb62

Joined
20 May 17
Moves
15791
09 Jul 17
1 edit

Ok so Einstein was right again ( grav-waves).. which isn't very hard to predict if you believe in the Planck scale.

s
Fast and Curious

slatington, pa, usa

Joined
28 Dec 04
Moves
53223
09 Jul 17

Originally posted by ogb
Ok so Einstein was right again ( grav-waves).. which isn't very hard to predict if you believe in the Planck scale.
Why would that be? Do YOU 'believe' in the Planck scale? If it was music, what would it sound like?

mlb62

Joined
20 May 17
Moves
15791
09 Jul 17

It's still theoretical , but it stands to reason that there is a limit . And that limit constitutes the physical "web" of the universe.

K

Germany

Joined
27 Oct 08
Moves
3118
09 Jul 17

Originally posted by ogb
Ok so Einstein was right again ( grav-waves).. which isn't very hard to predict if you believe in the Planck scale.
Einstein's theory of gravity has nothing to do with the Planck scale - in fact the theory breaks down at that scale. General relativity is formulated in terms of the stress-energy tensor (an object akin to a mass/energy density) and has no quantization of fields whatsoever.

h

Joined
06 Mar 12
Moves
642
09 Jul 17
6 edits

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Einstein's theory of gravity has nothing to do with the Planck scale -
Yes.

relativity ≠ quantum physics

The first is the physics deduced from the principle that speed of c is the same in all frames of reference (general relativity comes from considering that principle for accelerating frames of reference)

The second is the physics deduced from observations indicating quantums of the very small (an odd-sounding way to word it but don't know how else to better say it)

-two very different physics.

mlb62

Joined
20 May 17
Moves
15791
10 Jul 17

OK so why hasn't a Graviton particle been found ?

s
Fast and Curious

slatington, pa, usa

Joined
28 Dec 04
Moves
53223
10 Jul 17
1 edit

Originally posted by ogb
OK so why hasn't a Graviton particle been found ?
Pretty much because if they are real, which is not assured, it is very very difficult to detect, much more difficult than neutrino's for instance. Pretty much by definition since none has been found to this date. But still, what would a graiviton have to do with plancks constant?

mlb62

Joined
20 May 17
Moves
15791
10 Jul 17

. But still, what would a graiviton have to do with plancks constant?[/b]
Wasn't saying there is any connection, per se. But it would be important as to how Gravity works, in general. Since the Higgs Boson has been detected, CERN should be trying to detect the Graviton next.

s
Fast and Curious

slatington, pa, usa

Joined
28 Dec 04
Moves
53223
10 Jul 17

Originally posted by ogb
Wasn't saying there is any connection, per se. But it would be important as to how Gravity works, in general. Since the Higgs Boson has been detected, CERN should be trying to detect the Graviton next.
Well you should write a paper extolling the virtues of looking directly for a gaviton.

Here is a bit about the big guys looking exactly for that:

http://blog.thingswedontknow.com/2016/08/search-for-the-graviton.html