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05 Dec 15
Originally posted by moonbusWere I a betting man, I'd put mine on if there is life out in space (and for all the information we have, that's still "if", not "where"!), they will discover us, not we them.
I'm putting my money on the moons of Saturn for the first discovery of exo-life
05 Dec 15
Originally posted by Shallow BlueThat presupposes that life out there is both intelligent and curious. Lowering the bar to include life which is neither, raises the possibility of finding some life out there at all.
Were I a betting man, I'd put mine on if there is life out in space (and for all the information we have, that's still "if", not "where"!), they will discover us, not we them.
05 Dec 15
Originally posted by sonhouseHostile to complex multicellular life, maybe, but to single cellular life, definitely not. There is plenty of evidence that single celled life as we know it on earth would be able to live on probably one or more planets/moons around nearly every star in every galaxy in the universe. Getting started however is another matter and a big unknown at this stage.
Much more likely we just live in a universe basically hostile to life.
It seems we have only found a very small number of planets around other stars in the 'goldilocks zone' where liquid water can appear.
That is entirely a result of not looking. Whenever we have looked we have found such planets.
On November 4, 2013, astronomers reported, based on Kepler data, that there could be as many as 40 billion Earth-sized planets orbiting in the habitable zones of Sun-like stars and red dwarfs in the Milky Way.[5][6] 11 billion of these may be orbiting Sun-like stars.[7] The nearest such planet may be 12 light-years away, according to the scientists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstellar_habitable_zone
05 Dec 15
Originally posted by twhiteheadI agree, I think life is out there, we're just not seeing it. Life has been found on this planet on the floor of the Antarctic ocean and in mines deeper than 1 km, in waters near freezing and inside solid rock at nearly 50 degrees C.
Hostile to complex multicellular life, maybe, but to single cellular life, definitely not. There is plenty of evidence that single celled life as we know it on earth would be able to live on probably one or more planets/moons around nearly every star in every galaxy in the universe. Getting started however is another matter and a big unknown at this stage ...[text shortened]... according to the scientists.[/quote]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstellar_habitable_zone
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-23522734
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/deep-life-rock-kilometre-down-1.3351408
06 Dec 15
Originally posted by moonbusAnd Europa spewing those red organics has to be some kind of a sign. We won't know, of course, till a probe of some kind lands there, retrieve a bit of it, send it back to Earth or a very capable biolab on the probe. And that is literally decades away, maybe 40 years. Too bad, I would love to see results from such a probe. I would be a mere 115 in 40 years....
I agree, I think life is out there, we're just not seeing it. Life has been found on this planet on the floor of the Antarctic ocean and in mines deeper than 1 km, in waters near freezing and inside solid rock at nearly 50 degrees C.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-23522734
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/deep-life-rock-kilometre-down-1.3351408
Hey, it could happen🙂
06 Dec 15
Originally posted by sonhouseCryogenics. Set your alarm clock for 2055.
And Europa spewing those red organics has to be some kind of a sign. We won't know, of course, till a probe of some kind lands there, retrieve a bit of it, send it back to Earth or a very capable biolab on the probe. And that is literally decades away, maybe 40 years. Too bad, I would love to see results from such a probe. I would be a mere 115 in 40 years....
Hey, it could happen🙂
07 Dec 15
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Originally posted by moonbusMay not need cryo: Drug to allow us to live to be 150:
Cryogenics. Set your alarm clock for 2055.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2050788/Anti-ageing-wonder-pill-drug-enable-live-150.html
I'd be happy with a mere 140🙂 160 and I would make it to 2101!
08 Dec 15
Originally posted by sonhouseTelomerase will do it if you don't mind the cancer risk.
May not need cryo: Drug to allow us to live to be 150:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2050788/Anti-ageing-wonder-pill-drug-enable-live-150.html
I'd be happy with a mere 140🙂 160 and I would make it to 2101!
08 Dec 15
Originally posted by DeepThoughtThings are progressing so fast in the medical field in ten years we will know 100X what we know now.
Telomerase will do it if you don't mind the cancer risk.
Here is one small sample:
http://phys.org/news/2015-12-molecular-shift-stem-cells-drosophila.html?utm_source=menu&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=item-menu
About how to keep stem cells from causing tumors.