what's the name of this opening ? (if it is on...

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1w e4
1b e5
2w f4
2b eXf4
3w d4
3b Qd8h4
just curious to know if this is an opening or not and what the name of this opening is if it is one

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Steinitz's Suicide.

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some variation of the kings gambit

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Originally posted by alexstclaire
some variation of the kings gambit
what is its name ?
and what is the answer after 3b-Qd8h4 ?

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Originally posted by HFRorbis
what is its name ?
and what is the answer after 3b-Qd8h4 ?
Game 976933
Game 1979966
Game 2147039
Game 2401961

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Originally posted by HFRorbis
1w e4
1b e5
2w f4
2b eXf4
3w d4
3b Qd8h4
just curious to know if this is an opening or not and what the name of this opening is if it is one
Ignore moves 3 and 4.

1w e4
1b e5
2w f4
2b eXf4 is the King'd Gambit Accepted. Who cares about variations. There's thousands of them.

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Originally posted by powershaker
Ignore moves 3 and 4.

1w e4
1b e5
2w f4
2b eXf4 is the King'd Gambit Accepted. Who cares about variations. There's thousands of them.
yes
BUT:
is
1w e4
1b e5
2w f4
2b eXf4
3w d4
3b Qd8h4
an opening or not ?
I think that 3w d4 is a mistake , do you know if 3w d4 is in the theory ?

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3.d4 is objectively a bad move, but there have been players willing to try it as White as several people have already mentioned.

I can't find a name for this variation, but Steinitz did play something very similar (but much better!) in the Vienna Gambit.

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Originally posted by HFRorbis
yes
BUT:
is
1w e4
1b e5
2w f4
2b eXf4
3w d4
3b Qd8h4
an opening or not ?
I think that 3w d4 is a mistake , do you know if 3w d4 is in the theory ?
After exf4 the two most played and probably sound moves are Nf3 and Bc4.

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Originally posted by tmetzler
Game 976933
Game 1979966
Game 2147039
Game 2401961


what is its name ?
and what is the answer after 3b-Qd8h4 ?
Do I get a royalty for Game 2147039, the only win for white here.

That is because 3. d4 is absolute crap! I carelessly played it out of sequence (god knows why I thought I'd already played Nf3) - I should have lost but got lucky (he was "greedy" and grabbed the e pawn when he could have had a Rook). Don't play it as white - ever!

what is its name ?
and what is the answer after 3b-Qd8h4 ?


Nothwithstanding my win above, the only sensible response is actually 4. white resigns; although 4. Ke2 is playable (just!)

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
Do I get a royalty for Game 2147039, the only win for white here.

That is because 3. d4 is absolute crap! I carelessly played it out of sequence (god knows why I thought I'd already played Nf3) - I should have lost but got lucky (he was "greedy" and grabbed the e pawn when he could have had a Rook). Don't play it as white - ever!

[i][b]what i ...[text shortened]... the only sensible response is actually 4. white resigns; although 4. Ke2 is playable (just!)
so 3w- d4 is a very bad move !

if 4w-resigns , then I should have won this game
Game 2577760
what did I mess up in this game ?

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Originally posted by HFRorbis
so 3w- d4 is a very bad move !

if 4w-resigns , then I should have won this game
Game 2577760
what did I mess up in this game ?
It seems inconceivable that with his K on b3 at move 8 that you shouldn't win.

Try 8. .. d6
If 9. d5 .. Qb6; 10. bXc .. BXd2 wins.

so 9. .. Bc4 .. a5; 10. a3 .. BXN; and if 11. BXB .. NXP+, 12. NXN .. QXN (or 12 Ka2) looks good for black whereas 11. NXB .. QXd4 or 11. QXB .. QXQ; 12. BXQ .. N Xe4 again look good for black.

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lol I like it, 5 developing moves with the king before move 15.