Trap Positions

Qd5 may be better than Qd6. I like it.

@eladar said
@wolfgang59

Qd6 and black is fine I think and a pawn up.

Sorry. I first read that as Qd5 which a lot of people play.

@wolfgang59

Qd5 wins the g2 pawn possibly more if you play Nc3.

@eladar said
@wolfgang59

Qd5 wins the g2 pawn possibly more if you play Nc3.

Take the g2 pawn and you lose at least a rook.

@wolfgang59 said
Take the g2 pawn and you lose at least a rook.

Show me.

@greenpawn34

Against the Edmund gambit I play Nc3 in to after Qb2.

@greenpawn34 said

The same sequence of moves can be seen in a
reversed form of the Englund (sic) Gambit trap.

The Englund Gambit Trap
[pgn]
1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 Nb8c6 3.Ng1f3 Qd8e7 4.Bc1f4 Qe7b4 5.Bf4d2 Qb4xb2 6.Bd2c3 Bf8b4 7.Qd1d2 Bb4xc3 8.Qd2xc3 Qb2c1[/pgn]
In Game 873731 Black missed 8...Qc1 mate and went on to lose.


Reversed in this setting. (also often ...[text shortened]... I sacced the win must be there. All I had to do was find it. } 14. Nh7 Rxh7 15. Qg4 [/pgn]

Patrzering and I just finished a game where he played the Englund Gambit. He played 3. … Qe7, which is a "book" move, but I did not understand the point.

After seeing the trap, now I do. He also ended up playing ...Qxb2 later in the game, so I think we played a prequel to the thread!

Hi Paul,

This is where discussing a G.I.P. can get a bit hazy.
Though none of us have the positions we are talking
about infront of us there are currently 5,400+ games
on the go at RHP We may be discussing, in all innocence,
a trap that is about to be set. or a trick about to be played.

The rule is it must not be one of the games you (the poster) are currently playing.

I wonder if anyone here has use the Magic Trick of playing Black
(game one) v someone and White (game 2) v someone else.
They open (game 2) with what ever was first played in (game one)
then wait for (Game 2) to reply then make that reply in (Game one).

They carry on copying moves from game to game till the end of the games.

So two different players, unknown to them, will be playing each other.
The lad in between will either draw both games or win one and lose one.

@Eladar

I will in our game if you wish to pursue that line!

@greenpawn34

That's is a trick that con artists have used to play simultaneous exhibitions against grandmasters. The key is that the con has to keep the GMs from seeing each others' games.

@wolfgang59

That is why I started it.

Ok the game is over. Here is the QGA trap I picked up from atilla the horn reversed colors.



I used to lose my rook to that queen this way playing 1.b3. Greenpawn pointed out two games where I did and asked why I did not learn. Now I think I have learned the danger of losing the rook because I now play this trap.

@greenpawn34 said
Hi Paul,

This is where discussing a G.I.P. can get a bit hazy.
Though none of us have the positions we are talking
about infront of us there are currently 5,400+ games
on the go at RHP We may be discussing, in all innocence,
a trap that is about to be set. or a trick about to be played.

The rule is it must not be one of the games you (the poster) are c ...[text shortened]... ill be playing each other.
The lad in between will either draw both games or win one and lose one.

It just struck me as unusual that we would have a recent game where two different ideas in the game subsequently appeared in the same thread.

Patterns repeat, as we say at the club.

@eladar said
Show me.

I was thinking of this.