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Joined 12 Jul '08 Moves 13814
I do not know if this is a legally set up board but the position is correct for the poison pawn situation I have seen twice on video. White to move to set up the poison b pawn.
This position seems to be pretty well known, except by the likes of me.
Any such trap positions on boards I should be looking for?
The Stacks
Joined 21 Aug '09 Moves 113572 @Eladar
This is just anecdotal, but it seems to me at RHP, that every time I offer up the b2 pawn, the player of the black pieces invariably takes it.
I often wonder if they are unaware of the danger, or are acutely aware and want to live on the edge. It's hard to tell sometimes.
Joined 12 Jul '08 Moves 13814 @Paul-Leggett
If I had not seen those videos, I would be unaware. The second time I decided to figure out all the elements and memorize them.
Joined 12 Jul '08 Moves 13814 Just watched a new video lol. Here is the starting position.
If queen takes the b2 pawn black's queen is dead, or at least could be.
Here is the variation that I could not remember. It is because you must forego the obvious fork.
[Event "Chessboard Editor at Apronus.com"] [Site "https://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php"] [Date "2019.06.22"] [Round "-"] [White "?"] [Black "?"] [Result "*"] 1. e4 c5 2. d4 d6 3. d5 Qa5+ 4. Bd2 Qb6 5. Nc3 Qxb2 6. Rb1 Qa3 7. Nb5 Qa4 8. Nxd6+ Kd8 9. Nxf7+ Kc7 10. Bf4+ e5 11. Bxe5+ Bd6 12. Bxd6+ Kd7 13. Bb5+ *
e4
Joined 06 May '08 Moves 42492 Rather than go for the Queen here with 13.Bb5+
13,Qg4+ mates in a few moves.
Also there are a few other good moves This one the Queen takes
the b2 pawn and the Black King is mated on the b2 square.
1. e4 c5 2. d4 d6 3. d5 Qa5+ 4. Bd2 Qb6 5. Nc3 Qxb2 6. Rb1 Qa3 7. Nb5 Qa4 8. Nxd6+ Kd8 9. Bb5 {This move is also very good.} 9... Qxa2 10. Nxf7+ Kc7 11. Bf4+ Kb6 {There will be quicker mates but for effect......} 12. Bc4+ Ka5 13. Rb5+ Ka4 14. c3+ Ka3 15. Ra5+ Kb2 16. Qc1 {The Black King has been mated on b2.}
Joined 12 Jul '08 Moves 13814 @greenpawn34
13 Qg4+ mates because the e7 pawn is missing.
See a good move, looking for something better. Easier said than done.
Joined 12 Jul '08 Moves 13814 I was hoping for a way to generalize this poison pawn position over to all openings, but it seems in chess exactly which pieces are where is very important.
Joined 12 Jul '08 Moves 13814 If you know the trap position, you can set it up. Just caught my first queen this way today. I was black of course lol.
Joined 12 Jul '08 Moves 13814 I just lost to this trap.
[Event "Chessboard Editor at Apronus.com"] [Site "https://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php"] [Date "2019.06.23"] [Round "-"] [White "?"] [Black "?"] [Result "*"] 1. e4 d5 2. Nf3 dxe4 3. Ng5 Nf6 4. d3 exd3 5. Bxd3 *
Yeah I played h6, next time g6.
Well maybe I will not take that second pawn at all.
Or maybe Qd7 or Qd6.
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Joined 06 May '08 Moves 42492
If you knew more traps you might not have fallen for this one.
It's a trap for Black often seen in the Budapest Gambit.
@aanepade caught 8 players with this same series of moves.
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e5 3. dxe5 Ng4 4. Nf3 d6 5. exd6 Bxd6 6. h3 Nxf2 7. Kxf2 Bg3+ 8. Kxg3 Qxd1
Joined 12 Jul '08 Moves 13814 @greenpawn34
I just played a queen' s gambit trap a day or two ago in an active game. White played 1.g3 so d5 2.d4 c5 gave me the opportunity.
Atilla the Horn did it to me a while back.
The trap was sprung but game is still active so....
RHP Arms
Joined 09 Jun '07 Moves 48793 @eladar said
Yeah I played h6, next time g6.
Well maybe I will not take that second pawn at all.
Or maybe Qd7 or Qd6.
[Event "Chessboard Editor at Apronus.com"] [Site "https://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php"] [Date "2019.06.23"] [Round "-"] [White "?"] [Black "?"] [Result "*"] 1. e4 d5 2. Nf3 dxe4 3. Ng5 Nf6 4. d3 exd3 5. Bxd3 *
It is the Tennison Gambit.
5. ... g6 or h6
both are met with Nxf7 then Bxg6 or Bg6
and the Queen is lost.
You see this a lot in Blitz.
3. ... e5 is best I believe.
Joined 12 Jul '08 Moves 13814 @wolfgang59
Qd6 and black is fine I think and a pawn up.
RHP Arms
Joined 09 Jun '07 Moves 48793 @eladar said
@wolfgang59
Qd6 and black is fine I think and a pawn up.Nc3
I chase your queen around while I develop.
Joined 12 Jul '08 Moves 13814 @wolfgang59 said
Nc3
I chase your queen around while I develop.Nc3 c6 and I am fine. It is my typical Scandinavian position.
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