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    I do not know if this is a legally set up board but the position is correct for the poison pawn situation I have seen twice on video. White to move to set up the poison b pawn.

    This position seems to be pretty well known, except by the likes of me.

    Any such trap positions on boards I should be looking for?
  2. SubscriberPaul Leggett
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    @Eladar

    This is just anecdotal, but it seems to me at RHP, that every time I offer up the b2 pawn, the player of the black pieces invariably takes it.

    I often wonder if they are unaware of the danger, or are acutely aware and want to live on the edge. It's hard to tell sometimes.
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    @Paul-Leggett

    If I had not seen those videos, I would be unaware. The second time I decided to figure out all the elements and memorize them.
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    Just watched a new video lol. Here is the starting position.

    If queen takes the b2 pawn black's queen is dead, or at least could be.

    Here is the variation that I could not remember. It is because you must forego the obvious fork.
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    Rather than go for the Queen here with 13.Bb5+


    13,Qg4+ mates in a few moves.

    Also there are a few other good moves This one the Queen takes
    the b2 pawn and the Black King is mated on the b2 square.



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    @greenpawn34

    13 Qg4+ mates because the e7 pawn is missing.

    See a good move, looking for something better. Easier said than done.
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    I was hoping for a way to generalize this poison pawn position over to all openings, but it seems in chess exactly which pieces are where is very important.
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    If you know the trap position, you can set it up. Just caught my first queen this way today. I was black of course lol.

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    I just lost to this trap.



    Yeah I played h6, next time g6.

    Well maybe I will not take that second pawn at all.

    Or maybe Qd7 or Qd6.
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    If you knew more traps you might not have fallen for this one.
    It's a trap for Black often seen in the Budapest Gambit.
    @aanepade caught 8 players with this same series of moves.

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    @greenpawn34

    I just played a queen' s gambit trap a day or two ago in an active game. White played 1.g3 so d5 2.d4 c5 gave me the opportunity.

    Atilla the Horn did it to me a while back.

    The trap was sprung but game is still active so....
  12. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    @eladar said
    Yeah I played h6, next time g6.

    Well maybe I will not take that second pawn at all.

    Or maybe Qd7 or Qd6.

    It is the Tennison Gambit.
    5. ... g6 or h6
    both are met with Nxf7 then Bxg6 or Bg6
    and the Queen is lost.
    You see this a lot in Blitz.


    3. ... e5 is best I believe.
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    @wolfgang59

    Qd6 and black is fine I think and a pawn up.
  14. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    @eladar said
    @wolfgang59

    Qd6 and black is fine I think and a pawn up.
    Nc3
    I chase your queen around while I develop.
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    @wolfgang59 said
    Nc3
    I chase your queen around while I develop.
    Nc3 c6 and I am fine. It is my typical Scandinavian position.
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