Spassky and the Greco Counter

Spassky and the Greco Counter

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A really good game we will all understand from Spassky.
Loads of Rip Off's to watch out for.
Also the Prose Competition winning entry.

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
A really good game we will all understand from Spassky.
Loads of Rip Off's to watch out for.
Also the Prose Competition winning entry.

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Hello Greenpawn a treat again. However I think your last comment in the game is erroneous 😉 White was to resign....

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Can't the king go to b2 if Qe1+ Rxe1 Rxe1+?

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Cheers Ponders.

Corrected. Fredian slip, in the Greco at the level Black usually resigns. 😉

'erroneous' what dictionary did you have for breakfast?

I don't do 'erroneous' I do mistakes.
(deliberate mistakes to see if you are paying attention.)

Hi HikaruShindo

You need to post a diagram or give some move numbers.

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I was looking on Edward Winter's site for more on Bob Wade and the 'Red Book.'
Always go there first.
I found this interesting piece of chess.

http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/wade.html

In a nutshell.

In 1942 Bob Wade played a Marshall type Queen sac in a correspondence game.



Bob stated the the variation with the Queen sacrifice had been seen in
analysis from the game Kopayev - Chistyakov 1938.

Fast forward to 1964 and we meet Marovi v Chagan playing each other
in the World Student Team Championship in Cracow where the entire game
was reproduced and this time White received a Brilliancy Prize!
(Mega Base has this game as Marovi - Tsagan )

Here is the full game (one last wee twist to come.)

R. Wade - E.W. Bennett corres, New Zealand, 1942



However also on Mega Base I found.
(I think it's only fair if I do some rearch of my own.)

Qestreich - Spilker Steinheim, 1969.

Here instead of 13 Qc2


White played 13.Qb1! (he must known and studied the previous game. If not
then it's a very deep OTB find.)

The new point being when this position arose a few moves later.


Black no longer has the Boleslavsky move 19...Qb4 because now the e1 Rook is defended.

A good example of how the game evolves by looking at previous games.

The Qestreich - Spilker game continued the same way with White winning.

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Originally posted by HikaruShindo
Can't the king go to b2 if Qe1+ Rxe1 Rxe1+?
No, that's what I thought at first, too, but then the other rook mates on a2.

Richard

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Thanks for the blog. That Spasky game was awesome.

Duckfinder General

223b Baker Street

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Originally posted by Shallow Blue
No, that's what I thought at first, too, but then the other rook mates on a2.

Richard
But then it's mate in 3... which is being rather picky... although I'm sure GP meant 2 moves for black.

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
Cheers Ponders.

Corrected. Fredian slip, in the Greco at the level Black usually resigns. 😉

'erroneous' what dictionary did you have for breakfast?

I don't do 'erroneous' I do mistakes.
(deliberate mistakes to see if you are paying attention.)

Hi HikaruShindo

You need to post a diagram or give some move numbers.

---------------------- ...[text shortened]... 1 b - - 0 1"]

1... Bg6 2. Qxg6 hxg6 3. Bxf7+ Rxf7 4. Rh8+ Kxh8 5. Nxf7+[/pgn]
Bravo!! You really do do your research don't you!!! I think it's a shame i can only give this one thumbs up. Excellent post!

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Originally posted by Marinkatomb
Bravo!! You really do do your research don't you!!! I think it's a shame i can only give this one thumbs up. Excellent post!
I do not think he do do his research! How dare you insinuate such a thing! 😠😀

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Originally posted by tomtom232
I do not think he do do his research! How dare you insinuate such a thing! 😠😀
What are you talking about, Not only is GP a master chess player, he is also a wiz at craps...

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Craps I'm good at. Crap moves even better.

Research consists of hitting computer keys at random and making things up.
Sometimes I'm lucky as was the case here.

I may contact Edward Winter as it would be a nice finish to his article.

I like the bit where a player copped a brillo prize for a game that
had been played 20 years before.

GENS UNA SUMUS

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Originally posted by greenpawn34

I like the bit where a player copped a brillo prize for a game that
had been played 20 years before.
If I can remember this tactic in 20 weeks I'll be looking for a brilliancy prize. How many positions do we study in trying to achieve the impossible only to realize in post mortems that we have missed the opportunity? At the moment this seems unforgettable (I really did enjoy it - thanks) but a few weeks down the road and it all sinks into mist.

The interesting challenge, maybe, is to recognize the impending disaster when playing Black! How many really brilliant moves are the defensive ones against threats which most opponents never even considered? When I do well against a strong opponent (it has happened!) I sometimes suspect they have been guarding against threats I had no inkling of.