Pleasing positional sacrifice

Pleasing positional sacrifice

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FL

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Objectively the rook sac might not have been the best move, but it gave your opponent problems that he wasn't able to solve, which is what chess is all about.

Did you see Topov's game yesterday? He wasn't as brave as you as he only sacced a knight for several unstoppable passed pawns.

e4

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"Objectively the rook sac might not have been the best move, but it gave your
opponent problems that he wasn't able to solve, which is what chess is all about"

Spot on Fat Lady. Spot on.
And don't forget players sometimes see problems that are not there.
The stronger you get the more problems that are not there you see

I'm up for Robbie's win with a flourish attitude and rarely miss going over
his posted games. He all the right ideas but not yet in the right positions. πŸ˜‰
One day it will all tumble into place and we will have a good OTB player on our hands.
You will know when it happens. He will stop posting on here.
This is the reserve for hackers, saccers and trolls. πŸ™‚

When playing with with a won position I fully recommend you always look for
a sac - mate or pretty combo to close it. It keeps you alert so you don't drift
and blow it by letting the game plod along.

But beauty as always is in the eye of the beholder.

To me the whole plan of keeping both Rooks tied down to the c-pawn
and blocking the Kingside pawns allowing the King to reach a5.....

From this:


to this in 6 moves.


Should have been capped with the simple yet very instructive and 'pleasing'.



I have a few 'let's go for the brillo prize' games where I have declined the
butchers mate.

This position happened in a League match. I'm White.
(I'm a Rook down, of course I'm White.) πŸ™‚
I sacced a Rook on a1 with a check and am now going to finish it off.



Hi Linden.

I've moved your post into my blog thread. It seems out of place here.

The Near Genius

Fort Gordon

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
"Objectively the rook sac might not have been the best move, but it gave your
opponent problems that he wasn't able to solve, which is what chess is all about"

Spot on Fat Lady. Spot on.
And don't forget players sometimes see problems that are not there.
[b]The stronger you get the more problems that are not there you see


I'm up for Robbie' ...[text shortened]... n.

I've moved your post into my blog thread. It seems out of place here.[/b]
I think the problem with your plan for Robbie is that while you bring his king over to the queen side, his opponent can also bring his king over and I don't think your plan will work. Sorry Buddy.

C
Cowboy From Hell

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Originally posted by Fat Lady
Objectively the rook sac might not have been the best move, but it gave your opponent problems that he wasn't able to solve, which is what chess is all about.

Did you see Topov's game yesterday? He wasn't as brave as you as he only sacced a knight for several unstoppable passed pawns.

[pgn]
[Event "London"]
[Site "FIDE Grand Prix"]
[Date "2012.09.2 ...[text shortened]... 4 Bxg4 44.e7+
Ke8 45.c6 Be6 46.Kc3 Bd5 47.c7 Bb7 48.Kd4 Kd7 49.Kc5 1-0
[/pgn]
A good sacrifice is one that is not necessarily sound but leaves your opponent dazed and confused. - Rudolph Spielmann

t

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I think the problem with your plan for Robbie is that while you bring his king over to the queen side, his opponent can also bring his king over and I don't think your plan will work. Sorry Buddy.
You must not have turned your engine on before making this comment. If the white king ever ventures onto the c file then ...d4 0-1

The Near Genius

Fort Gordon

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Originally posted by tomtom232
You must not have turned your engine on before making this comment. If the white king ever ventures onto the c file then ...d4 0-1
The point is that his opponent is not going to keep his King far away from the action and should be able to stop the pawn advance by moving toward the queen side. Of course, he should not overlook what Robbie will be able to do. I am just saying that I don't think the plan will work. I haven't worked it out, but that is my gut feeling.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
The point is that his opponent is not going to keep his King far away from the action and should be able to stop the pawn advance by moving toward the queen side. Of course, he should not overlook what Robbie will be able to do. I am just saying that I don't think the plan will work. I haven't worked it out, but that is my gut feeling.
It is what happened in the game... Robbie is up two pawn with the c pawn being the only thing holding whites game up. The white king can't get close enough... as happened in the game. Just do us all a favor and shut up you know nothing about chess except for how the pieces move.

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The Axe man

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I can't believe that is your game - RJH

LOL, I find such a statement hilarious Ronald my friend considering you believe all sorts of crazeeee other stuff, ironic really πŸ˜€

chess arteeest baby, chess arteeest!
you mean artesian bore, right?

e4

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Cheers Tom Tom

Thanks for answering. I'm totally ignoring him.
He's a class one troll who visits every thread, farts and then leaves.

The two posted postions did indeed come from the actual game Robbie posted.



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Fort Gordon

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
Cheers Tom Tom

Thanks for answering. I'm totally ignoring him.
He's a class one troll who visits every thread, farts and then leaves.

The two posted postions did indeed come from the actual game Robbie posted.

[fen]6k1/2r5/4p1p1/1p1pPp1p/p1r2P1P/R1PR1KP1/8/8 b - - 0 42[/fen]

[fen]8/2r5/4p1p1/kp1pPp1p/p1r2P1P/R1PR2P1/3K4/8 b - - 0 48[/fen]
Fart, fart! 😏

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
When playing with with a won position I fully recommend you always look for
a sac - mate or pretty combo to close it. It keeps you alert so you don't drift
and blow it by letting the game plod along.
That's the best piece of advice I've heard in a long time. I've never really thought of it like that. So often I blow won games by being complacent. I find I concentrate more when I'm losing, and get lazy when I'm winningπŸ™

rc

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
you mean artesian bore, right?
shouldn't you be scanning the stratosphere with your tin foil hat for aliens? mork calling karoly poly, come in karoly poly.

rc

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Originally posted by hedonist
That's the best piece of advice I've heard in a long time. I've never really thought of it like that. So often I blow won games by being complacent. I find I concentrate more when I'm losing, and get lazy when I'm winningπŸ™
the advice given in this thread by GreenPawn, Fatlady, Duchess64, Chesspraxis and Tomo is worth its weight in gold.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
the advice given in this thread by GreenPawn, Fatlady, Duchess64, Chesspraxis and Tomo is worth its weight in gold.
And I suppose my comments are only worth a fart or two.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
shouldn't you be scanning the stratosphere with your tin foil hat for aliens? mork calling karoly poly, come in karoly poly.
Ah, Mork & Mindy. Now that was a good show. You're older than I thought Robbie. πŸ˜‰