Greenpawn plays the London System

Greenpawn plays the London System

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Blitz game from a few days ago. Toyed with the idea of blogging it.
(The Duck would take mickey out of it.) 🙂

I play 1.d4 and the London System.

I'll correct that. I played a few 1,d4's and the London System.
As always you get to see the joyful one. The others were not very good.
A couple of wins and a loss here and there. I've forgotten them.
This I remember.

c

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I loved playing through that game. I wish I was able to get in a tough position, declare "it's swindling time!" and rip out the tactics like you did there!

c
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Originally posted by chesskid001
I loved playing through that game. I wish I was able to get in a tough position, declare "it's swindling time!" and rip out the tactics like you did there!
Me too... more often than not I declare "it's swindling time" and get mated next move.

t

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Originally posted by chesskid001
I loved playing through that game. I wish I was able to get in a tough position, declare "it's swindling time!" and rip out the tactics like you did there!
Remember GPs blog. This is called hindsight writing... for GP its always swindling time.

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Just once I'd like to win one without swindling. Just once.

(don't forget I only show the good ones, there is a lot dross I sometimes play
that will never see the light of day.) 🙂

The knack in swindling is to not leave it too late.
That is why I play the Greco (the Latvian) I'm in need to swindle mode from move 2.

Mister Why

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
Just once I'd like to win one without swindling. Just once.
Really, GP? I doubt that. I bet if you played a game like Karpov where you played a QGD to a slight advantage in the middle game and exchanged down over 50 moves to where your pawn was better than his pawn, extracting a resignation, you would be bored out of your mind.

Swindling is your style. It's what you love about chess.

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Hi byedidia

I don't think I'd get bored, I'd cock it up going for a snazzy win or drift
unknowingly into a drawn Rook and pawn ending and try and win it not
knowing it was drawn.

Tom Tom was correct in a way. Notes in hindsight.


Having opened the h-file I would have been reluctant to 0-0.
And tossing an undeveloped Rook for an active Knight is what I no doubt
would have played in a serious OTB game.

Playing Nc3 and then answering Nb4 with axb4 drops a Rook with
a check. It's not a double Rook sac type position (I have enough unsound and some
some sound Double Rook sacs under my belt to know these things.)*

I have to play axb4 I cannot let that d3 Bishop go. If that goes so do all my
cheapo chances.

So the only the only logical move is Ke2 and see if I can drum up some play
with his Queen stuck in the corner and his uncastled King.
So scratch 'swindling time' and add !!! 🙂

*(Some spark is now going to show a win if I sac both Rooks.)

"...50 moves to where your pawn was better than his pawn."

This will be about as close as it gets to that situation.

It goes to move 47 and I'm two pawns down but my f-pawn is better than his h-pawn.
Actually it's not because he blunders in the allegro finish.

All Karpov needs is a wee tiny plus. I need a blunder.

It's a nice 'too and fro' game played OTB. White is better, Black is better,
White is winning, Black is winning, the game is drawn...eventually Black wins.

D. Fowler - G. Chandler, Edinburgh Congress 2003.

Light notes. I miss a few good moves, he misses a few, he blunders last.

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10...Ne4 does not look good. It was better to continue development with 10...Bd7 and 11... Rc8.

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Why?

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Originally posted by tvochess
Why?
Have you heard about quick development as one of basic opening principles? In some positions moving a piece twice (or more times) may be useful of course, but I dont see the point to do it in this position.

Boston Lad

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There are of course games with "life commentary". That is when groups play each otehr and discuss. We did this in the clan (our best against the rest). Some really nice moves turned out not too well after all...

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Originally posted by Pacifique
Have you heard about quick development as one of basic opening principles? In some positions moving a piece twice (or more times) may be useful of course, but I dont see the point to do it in this position.
Violating opening principles doesn't make it a bad move. Everyone says that opening principles are not holy and should be abandoned when there are opportunities.

Black wants to attack, taking this nice knight outpost fits in that plan. Also it fixates the centre, which makes the uncastled black king less vulnerable for counterattack.

So, why is it bad according to you?

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Hi Pacifique.

Yes I agree (in hindsight - what a wonderful word) that here.


The opening plan of Bd7 and Rc8 stops all the tricks that followed.

But after 10...Ne4


I walked into the very plausible 11.Bd3 and 11...Qa4+ caught me and I had
a good approx one minute think.
(it was a 5.00+something game. I usually set up a board with me as Black and 4.00
but this lad was waiting for a game set up as Black so I took it.)
Got the feeling he had been here before. I certainly had not.

10...Ne4 is a good practical blitz move and I reckon it would not look to
much out of place in a proper OTB game.
(It's a sly trap and I would try it.) 🙂

I still have not decided on what was the best way to take back after 7...cxd4.


I have a four move choice. (actually five I may not want to take it back.)

I'm not looking for the 'best move' I want the 'me move' to give a position
I want to play not what I should, according to theory or current principlies play.
I pretty much doubt I'll see that position again if I do I'll play cxd4 as in the
game. It was my first instinct, I'll go with that though it does look like I will be
tossing a tempo with a later a3.

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Originally posted by byedidia
Really, GP? I doubt that. I bet if you played a game like Karpov where you played a QGD to a slight advantage in the middle game and exchanged down over 50 moves to where your pawn was better than his pawn, extracting a resignation, you would be bored out of your mind.
Nah. I bet he's won hundreds, no thousands such games. But he would never dare post a single one of them here, for fear that we'd mock him for it.

Remember... it's not just the annotating that happens in hindsight. It's the game selection as well.

Richard