Fool's Mate and Scholar's Mate

Fool's Mate and Scholar's Mate

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which is what im gonna do to BORATtheGREAT...everythings predictible before....which brings up another point.


WHY NOT DO THE BISHOP BEFORE THE QUEEN??????

8 people have done this to me and all of them do the queen 1st,which makes it obvious. with the bishop as least you could take a knight out or something else next turn or change your mind/mix it up.ill write again when i destroy btg.

EH

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Originally posted by jvanhine
which is what im gonna do to BORATtheGREAT...everythings predictible before....which brings up another point.


WHY NOT DO THE BISHOP BEFORE THE QUEEN??????

8 people have done this to me and all of them do the queen 1st,which makes it obvious. with the bishop as least you could take a knight out or something else next turn or change your mind/mix it up.ill write again when i destroy btg.
Sounds good, man.

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I look for the Scholar's Mate attempt with a bishop move as the second move, but there might be other plans they have for that, methinks.

i

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check out the game against borat....trapped him nicely.....if nobody else has done that variation i will call it van hine's suckerpunch😀

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van hine's suckerpunch it is unless you can say someone did this before...

i

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going once, twice sold!!!!! to...er.....me.😀

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Just a note: the concept behind the Scholar's Mate is sound, that concept being to have 2 pieces targeting your opponent's most vulnerable pawn. It's just that the execution in this case is unsound, since your opponent has relatively simple means to counter and gain initiative and development advantages, particularly if your second move is a queen move, telegraphing the intent loudly.

Even if the opponent's 2nd move isn't Qh5, you ought to keep an eye out for attempts to setup the threat (commonly made with a bishop/knight combination as well)

Fool's Mate, as has been mentioned before, is simply poor play without any tactical or strategic value.

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After this pair of games I put matru on my no play list.

Wulebgr - matru [A00]
rated blitz match freechess.org, 08.10.2005
1.d3 f6 2.e4 g5 3.f4 Bg7 4.Qh5+ Kf8 5.fxg5 fxg5 6.Bxg5 e6 7.Bxd8 matru resigns 1–0

matru - Wulebgr [A00]
rated blitz match freechess.org, 08.10.2005
1.f3 e6 2.g4 Qh4# 0–1

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UPDATE: MAY 1150-1250 MAY BANDED DUEL 2007

a player got checkmated in 5 moves by the scholar...in the most common mistake, they move a pawn of opposite knight when the queen moves back to the 2nd postion.

both games ended before mine and others started......1 down 62 to go?????

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Originally posted by jvanhine
check out the game against borat....trapped him nicely.....if nobody else has done that variation i will call it van hine's suckerpunch😀
Your 6th move was great. Great way to punish him! I'll try to throw that one in one of my future games. Now I'm waiting for an attempted scholar's mate on me. 🙂

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😀 there should be a turney from the 5 move in that game (it seems like a common spot) for lower players say,1299-0 🙂 just as long as i get a slot 😉

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heres the van hine's suckerpunch by the way...


Game 3546068

EH

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Originally posted by jvanhine
check out the game against borat....trapped him nicely.....if nobody else has done that variation i will call it van hine's suckerpunch😀
Very nice! So satisfying, yes?

EH

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Originally posted by geepamoogle
Just a note: the concept behind the Scholar's Mate is sound, that concept being to have 2 pieces targeting your opponent's most vulnerable pawn. It's just that the execution in this case is unsound, since your opponent has relatively simple means to counter and gain initiative and development advantages, particularly if your second move is a queen move, ...[text shortened]... as has been mentioned before, is simply poor play without any tactical or strategic value.
This makes sense to me.

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it was yummy 🙂