Originally posted by Nordlysyeah i figured that but surely a 1700 player should have seen that coming!! 😕
If you wonder about the starting position, it's a thematic tournament, so the pieces are set up for the From Gambit.
I'm only a 1300-1400 ranked player (at best) and I like to think that even I would not have played those moves. 😕
Originally posted by MCAthe worst part is that he must have known that the position would come on the board because until he played h3 it was just theory(maybe even the most played moves for both?).
yeah i figured that but surely a 1700 player should have seen that coming!! 😕
I'm only a 1300-1400 ranked player (at best) and I like to think that even I would not have played those moves. 😕
If you play a thematic tournament you should at least check the theme XD
I had a 6-mover over on GK (http://gameknot.com/chess.pl?bd=2329759)
1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Ne4 3. d3 Ng5 4. Bxg5 f6 5. exf6 gxf6 6. Qh5#
The quickest mate (as opposed to resignation) I've had here was probably on move 13 Game 781595 - this was the second round of an open tournament, so my opponent was obviously not usually this naive 😉
Originally posted by TestriderYes, that's what maybe surprised me most, too. It's a well known trap in the From Gambit. But I guess some people like to figure things out themselves. And I am sure if you have done this mistake once, it won't happen again, so maybe it's a good way to learn. 🙂
the worst part is that he must have known that the position would come on the board because until he played h3 it was just theory(maybe even the most played moves for both?).
If you play a thematic tournament you should at least check the theme XD
1. e4 g6
2. Nf3 Bg7
3. Bc4 b6
4. Nc3 Bb7
5. Qe2 Nc6
6. a3 Bxc3
7. dxc3 Nf6
8. e5 Nh5
9. Bh6 Nb8
i missed a move on move 10 i had a piece advantage after g4. i went for a win half of the time they will see it half the time they wont see it. if i had not made that mistake ne ways i'd be a piece up. come guys im only 17 ne one want to play me and see if their up for the challange then challange me and meet your fate
checkmate in under 10 or even 20 moves will not be a fun game. you would win but those wins are only traps and players above 1400 or 1500 will not step into those traps or even play the moves allowing you to set up those traps. the only reason someone should be checkmated in under 10 or 20 moves is that one person is like 1600 and the other is 1200 otherwise theres no way
Originally posted by kmac27maybe with fools made, but would you see legall coming? Here is an example of a reasonably high player who missed it, I believe it is actually a schwindle here but still a quick mate against a strong player.
you would win but those wins are only traps and players above 1400 or 1500 will not step into those traps or even play the moves allowing you to set up those traps. the only reason someone should be checkmated in under 10 or 20 moves is that one person is like 1600 and the other is 1200 otherwise theres no way
http://www.olimpbase.org/articles/trivia.html
(can't post a direct link to the game so hit control+f and search for legal 😉)
Originally posted by TestriderI would expect any decent player worth his salt to avoid getting mated within 15 moves, asnd certainly to avoid Legall's mate.
maybe with fools made, but would you see legall coming? Here is an example of a reasonably high player who missed it, I believe it is actually a schwindle here but still a quick mate against a strong player.
http://www.olimpbase.org/articles/trivia.html
(can't post a direct link to the game so hit control+f and search for legal 😉)
Originally posted by welsharniehehe you can expect a lot but that doen't mean it will go that way 😉
I would expect any decent player worth his salt to avoid getting mated within 15 moves, asnd certainly to avoid Legall's mate.
here is another quick win, same style as my last one 🙂
Game 1768241
