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I am having a disagreement with sonship over his use of other people's "reworded" ministries in this forum without given the originator the credit. I feel that this is poor forum ettiquete.
Taking another person's ministry or spiritual teaching and passing it off as your own, no matter how much "rewording" has been done, is intellectual theft and plagiarism.
Correct or incorrect?
10 Apr 17
Originally posted by divegeesterThat depends.
I am having a disagreement with sonship over his use of other people's "reworded" ministries in this forum without given the originator the credit. I feel that this is poor forum ettiquete.
Taking another person's ministry or spiritual teaching and passing it off as your own, no matter how much "rewording" has been done, is intellectual theft and plagiarism.
Correct or incorrect?
Plagiarism is a serious accusation. Borrowing ideas and thoughts from another, and paraphrasing to expound on those ideas and thoughts, isn't plagiarism unless one uses direct quotes and copy/pastes from copyrighted material.
At least that's how I understand it.
10 Apr 17
Originally posted by divegeesterIt demonstrate a lack of basic training on the part of the perpetrator. He has been doing that for years. Whats new?
I am having a disagreement with sonship over his use of other people's "reworded" ministries in this forum without given the originator the credit. I feel that this is poor forum ettiquete.
Taking another person's ministry or spiritual teaching and passing it off as your own, no matter how much "rewording" has been done, is intellectual theft and plagiarism.
Correct or incorrect?
Originally posted by divegeesterYou may as well condemn all religions that sprout from the Bible, JW's., Mormons, etc.
I am having a disagreement with sonship over his use of other people's "reworded" ministries in this forum without given the originator the credit. I feel that this is poor forum ettiquete.
Taking another person's ministry or spiritual teaching and passing it off as your own, no matter how much "rewording" has been done, is intellectual theft and plagiarism.
Correct or incorrect?
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Originally posted by whodeyI think you may be misunderstanding (possibly deliberately) my point here. I have suspected for a long time that the sermons/teachings/lectures which sonship posts in here contain core topic material from another source; he has admitted as much in one of the current threads. I feel these sources, or indeed, source, should be acknowledged. Do you agree?
You may as well condemn all religions that sprout from the Bible, JW's., Mormons, etc.
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10 Apr 17
Originally posted by josephwYou sure about that?
Borrowing ideas and thoughts from another, and paraphrasing to expound on those ideas and thoughts, isn't plagiarism unless one uses direct quotes and copy/pastes from copyrighted material.
At least that's how I understand it.
10 Apr 17
Originally posted by divegeesterIt depends on the 'rewording' and the 'credit taking'.
Taking another person's ministry or spiritual teaching and passing it off as your own, no matter how much "rewording" has been done, is intellectual theft and plagiarism.
Correct or incorrect?
Do you credit each and every person that influence your current religious beliefs? Have you ever credited Martin Luther in one of your posts?
If sonship is saying 'I came up with this and its MY ministry' then you may have a case. But if he is merely preaching christianity then he isn't necessarily taking credit at all as it is implicit that the belief system he is promoting is from third parties.
10 Apr 17
Originally posted by twhiteheadStill, it is just perpetuating the big scam.
It depends on the 'rewording' and the 'credit taking'.
Do you credit each and every person that influence your current religious beliefs? Have you ever credited Martin Luther in one of your posts?
If sonship is saying 'I came up with this and its MY ministry' then you may have a case. But if he is merely preaching christianity then he isn't necessarily ...[text shortened]... ng credit at all as it is implicit that the belief system he is promoting is from third parties.
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10 Apr 17
The thing I don't like about failure to cite sources is that I would like to be able to go to the source and read the quoted material in context. Who and what is the source, what is the main topic, etc.
But all I think I want to do is not read excessive unattributed verbiage. And perhaps let them know of my own personal policy on this.
10 Apr 17
Originally posted by josephwThat is a very narrow view of plagiarism.
That depends.
Plagiarism is a serious accusation. Borrowing ideas and thoughts from another, and paraphrasing to expound on those ideas and thoughts, isn't plagiarism unless one uses direct quotes and copy/pastes from copyrighted material.
At least that's how I understand it.
You can plagiarise someone's ideas without directly quoting them;
it is intellectual theft.
You think re-writing the Harry Potter books would be legal without permission?
10 Apr 17
Originally posted by divegeesterDefinitely should acknowledge sources
I think you may be misunderstanding (possibly deliberately) my point here. I have suspected for a long time that the sermons/teachings/lectures which sonship posts in here contain core topic material from another source; he has admitted as much in one of the current threads. I feel these sources, or indeed, source, should be acknowledged. Do you agree?
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Originally posted by twhiteheadI agree that historical Christian biblical doctrine and teaching, such as Calvinism or Lutharism is open to generalised discussion, but when something apparently new is presented, which was initially penned by another contemporary minister, then that minister should be acknowledged as the originator in the ministry. It's about (spiritual) intellectual integrity.
It depends on the 'rewording' and the 'credit taking'.
Do you credit each and every person that influence your current religious beliefs? Have you ever credited Martin Luther in one of your posts?
If sonship is saying 'I came up with this and its MY ministry' then you may have a case. But if he is merely preaching christianity then he isn't necessarily ...[text shortened]... ng credit at all as it is implicit that the belief system he is promoting is from third parties.