@blood-on-the-tracks saidIsn’t mayweather undefeated? Might have spelt his name wrongly.
@lemondrop
Why those 3? (Ali and 2 Sugar Rays) Lots of losses on their records.
Marciano won every fight. Can hardly do better than that.
Lennox Lewis lost twice, but avenged each loss. Won all others.
Can’t compare weights so top 3 overall boxers is impossible. 1 loss at heavyweight isnt important, one punch and it can be over, like Lewis in SA, but the lower weights should all be undefeated to be added to the conversation.
@trev33 saidit's not only about their record
Isn’t mayweather undefeated? Might have spelt his name wrongly.
Can’t compare weights so top 3 overall boxers is impossible. 1 loss at heavyweight isnt important, one punch and it can be over, like Lewis in SA, but the lower weights should all be undefeated to be added to the conversation.
it's about what they did for the sport
their popularity
their charisma
@Trev33
Yep, Mayweather is undefeated. Hardly the nicest guy, but would figure hard in a boxing argument.
Most laymen look at just heavyweights. They would beat all the little guys, undefeated or not.
Think, say, tennis, golf. We don't have different categories if you have a poor serve, can't put, aren't heavy enough.
You see the argument?
@lemondrop saidNah.
it's not only about their record
it's about what they did for the sport
their popularity
their charisma
Best boxer is best boxer.
Best boxer who also 'contributed to the sport' is another top 3
@blood-on-the-tracks saidlook
@Trev33
Yep, Mayweather is undefeated. Hardly the nicest guy, but would figure hard in a boxing argument.
Most laymen look at just heavyweights. They would beat all the little guys, undefeated or not.
Think, say, tennis, golf. We don't have different categories if you have a poor serve, can't put, aren't heavy enough.
You see the argument?
I limited it to three
I see your reasons
it's only my opinion
moving on now
@blood-on-the-tracks saidSee it and discard it, anyone and eat and work out until they’re a heavyweight, you just need to look an some of the upset wins over the years. No one is potentially going to die in a tennis or golf match, impossible to compare.
@Trev33
Yep, Mayweather is undefeated. Hardly the nicest guy, but would figure hard in a boxing argument.
Most laymen look at just heavyweights. They would beat all the little guys, undefeated or not.
Think, say, tennis, golf. We don't have different categories if you have a poor serve, can't put, aren't heavy enough.
You see the argument?
Joe Calzaghe is another one to add to the conversation, the best I’ve seen. Not sure why he was so underrated in the UK.
@lemondrop saidOk, ok
look
I limited it to three
I see your reasons
it's only my opinion
moving on now
I think you need to have a word with this lovely fmf.
I think his latest list is Frank Zappa. Albums, but only know this because I know music.
Label your list, then give top 3
@blood-on-the-tracks saiddammit
@Trev33
Yep, Mayweather is undefeated. Hardly the nicest guy, but would figure hard in a boxing argument.
Most laymen look at just heavyweights. They would beat all the little guys, undefeated or not.
Think, say, tennis, golf. We don't have different categories if you have a poor serve, can't put, aren't heavy enough.
You see the argument?
darnit
dangit
@trev33 saidJoe C certainly not under rated by me.
See it and discard it, anyone and eat and work out until they’re a heavyweight, you just need to look an some of the upset wins over the years. No one is potentially going to die in a tennis or golf match, impossible to compare.
Joe Calzaghe is another one to add to the conversation, the best I’ve seen. Not sure why he was so underrated in the UK.
Just saying, take your Mayweather guy. You seriously think if he took in a few thousand calories and worked out hard, he would be beating Fury or Joshua??
These guys have the sizeable advantage of being at least 6 inches/5 stone (toned) heavier.
see my argument on tennis players who can't serve etc.