Controversial Secrets You Wish You Had

@trev33 said
A lot of pettiness going on, not sure if the ham sandwiches story was true or the bbc just trying to push its Anti brexit stance though.

Best part, and only part of your post. worth replying to.

Fully agree.

@trev33 said
some rotten Scottish fish?

I thought he was very good as the lead of Marillion, actually, though tended to carry a little weight.

'Clutching At Straws' is an excellent album

(An attempt, albeit poor, to introduce a little humour)

@divegeester said
I seem to remember you calling me a “twat” just before you unfriended me on Facebook.

Yes the Remainer mindset is one of bitter losership. A mindset that clings to any media negativity like a drowning man clings to a lifesaver. It’s pathetic.

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe you were being a twat? I know other people who supported brexit who I'm still on good terms with. Maybe they got less involved and didn't throw insults around.

@divegeester said
No it isn’t. There is a trade deal in place.

There are reports from fishermen of EU officials creating strife at borders. It’s to be expected until more stringent local applications are enforced.

What about the people who retired or wanted to after the pandemic in Spain or other parts of Europe? Had to check this as wasn't sure, only 3 months they're allowed to stay in any EU country within a 6 months period, hell you can stay in most S. American countries for 6 months of the year visa free.

@trev33 said
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe you were being a twat? I know other people who supported brexit who I'm still on good terms with. Maybe they got less involved and didn't throw insults around.

I’m referring to your comment about “making it personal”, which YOU did when you insulted me. I don’t mind what you say to me Trev, just don’t pretend now it was me who made it personal, it was you.

@trev33 said
What about the people who retired or wanted to after the pandemic in Spain or other parts of Europe? Had to check this as wasn't sure, only 3 months they're allowed to stay in any EU country within a 6 months period, hell you can stay in most S. American countries for 6 months of the year visa free.

You need to check your source; this is from Gov.uk:

Visas and residency
If you were legally resident in Spain before 1 January 2021, you will be able to stay. You must ensure you are correctly registered as a resident. Children must also be registered with their own residency document.“

I suggest you :-
a) check your sources
b) take it to debates
c) stop making it personal by name calling (by the way I’m happy to still remain friends with you I’m not easily put off by name calling)

@blood-on-the-tracks said
I thought he was very good as the lead of Marillion, actually, though tended to carry a little weight.

I’d forgotten about Marillion! I listened to them loads in the 1980s; Fugasi and live in Leicester where good albums. Can’t remember the name of the others.

Edit: has to look them up! These were the only studio albums I listened to, plus the live album.

Studio Albums
Script for a Jester's Tear (1983)
Fugazi (1984)
Misplaced Childhood (1985)
Clutching at Straws (1987

I think a lot of their fans lost interest after Fish left the band.

@divegeester said
You need to check your source; this is from Gov.uk:

Visas and residency
If you were legally resident in Spain before 1 January 2021, you will be able to stay. You must ensure you are correctly registered as a resident. Children must also be registered with their own residency document.“

I suggest you :-
a) check your sources
b) take it to debates
...[text shortened]... lling (by the way I’m happy to still remain friends with you I’m not easily put off by name calling)

Not everyone will be able to apply for residency plus this doesn't help those wishing to move in the future. To go from freedom of movement to you're only allowed 3 months in every 6 as a tourist is quite a jump.

"If you are starting the residency process from scratch, bear in mind you will need proof of permanent address, registration on the census known as the padron, electric and water bills in your name(s) and also local bank accounts with living expenses going in.

You will need to prove your financial self-sufficiency by showing a certain amount of money: this varies from town to town, but is generally between €6,000 and €9,000. Check local requirements with a company specialising in residency. You will also need a NIE (Tax) number and healthcare cover (if under 65)."

My source is correct, as is yours but peoples circumstances are different.

I called you a twat, so what? If I'm being a twat I fully expect someone to tell me so, don't be so sensitive.

@trev33 said
Not everyone will be able to apply for residency plus this doesn't help those wishing to move in the future. To go from freedom of movement to you're only allowed 3 months in every 6 as a tourist is quite a jump.

You are talking about people who wanted to retire.

If you planned to retire, in the next three months, in a country where you live in where you aren’t already a resident then you’re an idiot. If you planned to retire in a country in the near future and you haven’t applied for residency, then you are also an idiot.

The world is full of idiots.

@trev33 said

I called you a twat, so what? If I'm being a twat I fully expect someone to tell me so, don't be so sensitive.

Sure. Anytime you want to reconnect on Facebook just let me know.

@trev33 said
"If you are starting the residency process from scratch, bear in mind you will need proof of permanent address, registration on the census known as the padron, electric and water bills in your name(s) and also local bank accounts with living expenses going in.

You will need to prove your financial self-sufficiency by showing a certain amount of money: this varies from tow ...[text shortened]... pecialising in residency. You will also need a NIE (Tax) number and healthcare cover (if under 65)."

As I said, if you have lived in an EU country and intend to retire there and haven’t applied for residency you’re an idiot.

If you planned to retire there and don’t have, or can’t prove financial self sufficiency, then frankly you are too poor to live there, and why should they let you sponge off of their welfare system anyway!

No sympathy for idiots and spongers. Sorry.

@trev33 said

My source is correct, as is yours but peoples circumstances are different.

What was your source?

@trev33 said
Not everyone will be able to apply for residency plus this doesn't help those wishing to move in the future. To go from freedom of movement to you're only allowed 3 months in every 6 as a tourist is quite a jump.

Ok but now we aren’t talking about foreign nationals, with residency, planning to retire, and who are protected under the withdrawal agreement.

This brexit process has being going on for 5 years! And yes freedom of movement across borders has gone. It’s a new world where new rules will be in play and people need to work with them.

How many of the millions of “tourists” will want to spend more than 50% of their time in the UK or likewise in the EU? How can they afford to do that? If they can afford to do that then they aren’t really “tourists”, they are more likely wealthy tax dodgers who have NOT applied for residency, but want to enjoy the benefits of owning a second property abroad. If they are students travelling they will be allowed to apply for a travel visa.

Sorry no sympathy.

@trev33 said

I called you a twat, so what? If I'm being a twat I fully expect someone to tell me so, don't be so sensitive.

You're always a twat little 't'!!! 😛

-VR

@Trev33

Did you have to alert the truth I posted because it hurt your fragile feelings, or are you going to blame one of the other group members for that? 😉
-VR