@kmax87 saidtrump impeachment would be the worse idea at this time.
For their own political future, will the tectonic shift signalled by this Democrat wave cause enough Gop senators to support a Trump impeachment?
everybody else should be impeached first
the spawns, the kushner, the musk. start with them.
@Zahlanzi saidCertainly they don't want to get caught in the trap of only doing corruption investigations but we have no details on what the impeachment charges might be yet, because Congress has until this point refused to investigate anything. So, now they investigate.
trump impeachment would be the worse idea at this time.
everybody else should be impeached first
the spawns, the kushner, the musk. start with them.
and... what if there's something bad there? Not like a BJ in the office, but something really bad. The existing evidence suggests a lot of bad stuff, the crypto schemes, Jared's financial ties to the Saudis, gas prices and the Iran war, defense technology no-bid contracts, pay-to-play pardons or general corporate profiteering/bribery. All of these seem way worse than what they already impeached him for
A lot of people are listing "corruption" as a major issue in their voting choice. Given the narrow margins won by several Republicans, it would all come down to what the charges were, what the evidence was, and whether they had the votes in the Senate, because by gosh it'd be a much better two years moving forward if Trump wasn't there.
@wildgrass saidNot to mention the Trump-Epstein files.
Certainly they don't want to get caught in the trap of only doing corruption investigations but we have no details on what the impeachment charges might be yet, because Congress has until this point refused to investigate anything. So, now they investigate.
and... what if there's something bad there? Not like a BJ in the office, but something really bad. The existing evi ...[text shortened]... in the Senate, because by gosh it'd be a much better two years moving forward if Trump wasn't there.
There are still too many pedophile-supporting scumbags in office.
It all needs to come out and let's get those heads rolling.
As far as corruption, maybe we need a new committee in the House to investigate and document all of the corruption. This could serve as a ground floor for (another) impeachment.
@kmax87 saidWhile it is popular now to distance themselves from Trump, it does not follow that they would testify against him. MAGA is still a force and ex-acolytes who do so still might find themselves out in '28. But the MAGAnauts are declining in number.
For their own political future, will the tectonic shift signalled by this Democrat wave cause enough Gop senators to support a Trump impeachment?
@Suzianne saidThe GOP might see dumping Trump as a necessary step to start rehabilitating their image. Why they wouldn't want to distance themselves from the stench of the Trump/Epstein connection is anyone's guess.
Not to mention the Trump-Epstein files.
There are still too many pedophile-supporting scumbags in office.
@kmax87 saidMoney, Re-election. The usual suspects.
The GOP might see dumping Trump as a necessary step to start rehabilitating their image. Why they wouldn't want to distance themselves from the stench of the Trump/Epstein connection is anyone's guess.
But maybe, just maybe, they'll start to fear Democrat voters.
@Zahlanzi saidHegseth.
trump impeachment would be the worse idea at this time.
everybody else should be impeached first
the spawns, the kushner, the musk. start with them.
There is more than enough evidence (and blood on his hands) to go after Hegseth.
I mean the whole Cabinet is sus. Rubio seems a dead man walking.
But we have to start at the beginning.
@wildgrass saidyou have enough time to do that after 2028 election, if the orange blob even lives that long.
Certainly they don't want to get caught in the trap of only doing corruption investigations but we have no details on what the impeachment charges might be yet, because Congress has until this point refused to investigate anything. So, now they investigate.
and... what if there's something bad there? Not like a BJ in the office, but something really bad. The existing evi ...[text shortened]... in the Senate, because by gosh it'd be a much better two years moving forward if Trump wasn't there.
you won't have republicans mass rallying behind hegseth. behind kushner. even behind either of dumb or dumber (trump sons). They might still rally behind trump, especially if they can sell it as another "witch hunt"
i am talking as if either of you dreaming about the orange in an orange inmate suit make policy for the democratic house/senate 🙂 But i really hope nobody gets this idea going.
Go after the minions first.
I've decided that it's best for Democrats to try to work with the few remaining Republicans that are sane grownups, and get some constructive legislation passed.
There are several reasons for this.
1) Impeachment of Trump has been done twice, and it amounts to nothing but theater when it's not followed up by indictment and removal from office. As Marauder has pointed out, Republicans have no spine to move against their Glorious Leader. Not even with the terrible midterm drubbing they received.
2) Leaving Trump in office has one bright side: his abhorrent administration will ensure the GOP remains toxic right into election day in 2028.
3) Trump can be pursued to the ends of the earth after he's termed out. Right now it's more important to go after Musk and other billionaires who have quite obviously committed serious crimes over the past couple years.
The simple reality is the US Constitution makes it much too difficult to remove a sitting president, especially when cultist dynamics have the president's party in thrall. There is no question that the GOP has become a personality cult, and remains one today.
@Metal-Brain saidNo, not much better; but on the other hand the GOP hasn't sworn a blood oath to Vance. Vance is not the heart and soul of the MAGA movement, which formally dies when Trump is termed out at latest.
@kmax87
How much better do you think JD Vance would be than Trump?
I am guessing not much better.
@Soothfast saidI support impeaching Trump because he is a war criminal.
No, not much better; but on the other hand the GOP hasn't sworn a blood oath to Vance. Vance is not the heart and soul of the MAGA movement, which formally dies when Trump is termed out at latest.
It would be a good start. I just doubt democrats could get enough republicans to go along with it.