The real Ethnic Cleansing

@Mott-The-Hoople said
Explain why you are for open borders in the US But opposed to open borders in Gaza and West Bank?

@no1marauder said
You want to blindly accept a politician's word because it supports a justification for the continued refusal of the Israeli government to engage in any serious negotiations with the Palestinians.

I don't find "Bill Clinton says so" in his self-serving memoirs as persuasive as you are pretending to. If you have anything other then that that disputes the points in my link, please present it.

@Rajk999 said
Area C in the West Bank has the largest share of your graph. Area C is the part of the West Bank controlled by Israeli Military. Problem is that many Arabs try to build illegal structures in this area and when found they are demolished. Weest Bank is notorious for terrorists and suicide bombers. When these people are found their properties are destroyed. In addition there is whole lot of building that go up without proper authorisaton and approval.

@no1marauder said
Then why are about 1000 Palestinian homes demolished by the Israelis each year in the West Bank?https://www.ochaopt.org/data/demolition

@Mott-The-Hoople said
Explain why you are for open borders in the US But opposed to open borders in Gaza and West Bank?

@no1marauder said
Area C is where all the Zionist settlements are in the WB and as my article shows, Palestinians are virtually never granted permission to build there as well as existing homes being demolished.

These are the "empty areas" sh76 mentioned.

@sh76 said
By definition, a demolition is not appropriating the house for usage by Israelis, meaning that your post in no way buttresses Z's nutty and bizarre claim that Jews fled Arab lands to get free housing stolen from Palestinians.

@sh76 said
My friends making payments on million dollar mortgages in Israel would appreciate guidance on how to get these free houses. Do you have any?

In all seriousness, you think Israelis are marching into Palestinian cities and taking over their houses? Israelis aren't even ALLOWED in Palestinian cities by ISRAELI law. I've seen the big red signs forbidding Israelis from going anywh ...[text shortened]... ties.

Where Israelis do live in the West Bank, they built new villages on previously empty areas.

@sh76 said
I will stop fighting for a moment to concede that the appropriation of all of Area C (and the threat to annex it that comes up from time to time) is wrong and counterproductive.

And it makes me sad, to be honest.

@sh76 said
Actually I'm extremely angry and afraid because of the failure to negotiate a deal with the Palestinians, but that doesn't mean Arafat wasn't at fault for walking out of Camp David when, at the very least, he could have kept trying to negotiate.

I don't have time right now, but I'm sure we could each find 100 links to support our positions as there are an infinite number of p ...[text shortened]... d at Camp David because they were the mediators, and wanted to close the deal as much as anyone did.

@AThousandYoung said
Ashdod and Ashkelon are Palestinian cities

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkelon

The town was conquered by Israeli forces on 5 November 1948, by which time much of the Arab population had fled,[4] leaving some 2700 inhabitants, of whom Israeli soldiers deported 500 in December 1948,[4] and most of the rest were deported by 1950.[5] Today, the city's population is almost entirely Israeli Jews

@no1marauder said
Area C is where all the Zionist settlements are in the WB and as my article shows, Palestinians are virtually never granted permission to build there as well as existing homes being demolished.

These are the "empty areas" sh76 mentioned.

@sh76 said
I will stop fighting for a moment to concede that the appropriation of all of Area C (and the threat to annex it that comes up from time to time) is wrong and counterproductive.

And it makes me sad, to be honest.

@no1marauder said
It takes a large degree of nativity and/or dishonesty to assert the US was ever an impartial broker between Israel and the Palestinians.

Mention of onerous conditions like the 99 year lease on the Jordan Valley, permanent Israeli control of Palestine airspace, etc. etc. seem to be absent in Ross or Clinton's versions aren't they?

@AverageJoe1 said
AvJoe not following crux of this thread, I’m not ‘brushed-up’ as are you fellas, but I was taken with your statement above that marauder says open our border but close Gaza’s?!?!?!!