Originally posted by sh76Much more fun than trolling and bitching and repeating the same opinion for the zillionth iteration without the slightest concession to other voices in this so called debates forum.
Was that fun, Finn?
As a general rule, I have ended most debates that I joined knowing something new. True I have mainly had to find things out myself, but the debates jogged me to bother, and some of the posters have given great new leads. In exchange, I periodically throw into a debate some stuff I have been reading or cogitating. As you may know, we learn best by trying to paraphrase new ideas in our own words.
So yes, it was fun in its way. But then, I also like playing chess and that is no less unusual for this forum.
Originally posted by whodey50 years ago the university libtards allowed free speech, even welcomed opposing viewpoints.
If I'm a conservative and wish to speak at a University, chances are they will disallow it or they will just shout me down like they do others.
I've seen people with petitions to outlaw freedom of speech or outlaw the entire Bill of rights on major college campus' across the country and students are more than willing to sign it.
Intellectual curiosity? Pfft. Just a bunch of Hitler youth
Originally posted by FishHead111McCarthyism was not in the Middle Ages but in our lifetimes. American totalitarianism has long been evident to observors but of course fish can't see the water, can they Fishface?
50 years ago the university libtards allowed free speech, even welcomed opposing viewpoints.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGsFMmcIfOw
16 Apr 16
Originally posted by whodeyYou merely make my own argument for me. American universities are not primarily concerned with academic freedom. They have long been bought into the corporate world and serve the interests of the corporations that fund them,. Student places in the prestige institutions are increasingly dictated by inherited wealth and influence, teaching is a commerical enterprise, routinized and conservative, and the products (qualifications) are of declining intrinsic value. Wealthy students are not paying stupid and uneconomic levels of fees in order to have their prejudices challenged but in order to obtain their entry certificate into a world of corporate greed to which they feel entitled by birth and from birth, while excluding the children of less affluent and influential families and social groups. Yes: I agree with your comparison to Hitler youth.
If I'm a conservative and wish to speak at a University, chances are they will disallow it or they will just shout me down like they do others.
I've seen people with petitions to outlaw freedom of speech or outlaw the entire Bill of rights on major college campus' across the country and students are more than willing to sign it.
Intellectual curiosity? Pfft. Just a bunch of Hitler youth
This all happened in China while Europe was entering its Middle Ages (in fact, arguably while Europe was still in its Dark Ages) and it is predictable that American universities will decay in the same manner under the conflicting pressures they face.