Shaming Christians Into Obedience

@PuzZuLz said
The point is, a lot of people here seem to think you're not a Christian unless you are getting walked over and turning the other cheek.

That's manipulation talk by people who want to actually walk all over the Christians or even eliminate them.

Fun Fact: the people who talk like that are the same people who think they can win an argument by calling you racist.

[Matthew 5:3-30, 38-48 NKJV] – 3 Jesus said: "Blessed [are] the poor in spirit, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4 Blessed [are] those who mourn, For they shall be comforted. 5 Blessed [are] the meek, For they shall inherit the earth. 6 Blessed [are] those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, For they shall be filled. 7 Blessed [are] the merciful, For they shall obtain mercy. 8 Blessed [are] the pure in heart, For they shall see God. 9 Blessed [are] the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God. 10 Blessed [are] those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 "Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 "Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great [is] your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. (Notice that no-where does it say one must claim to be a Christian).
13 "You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its flavor, how shall it be seasoned? It is then good for nothing but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot by men. 14 "You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 "Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all [who are] in the house. 16 "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven. 17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches [them], he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 "For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

21 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.' 22 "But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire. 23 "Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 "leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.
25 "Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. 26 "Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there till you have paid the last penny. 27 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not commit adultery.' 28 "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

29 "If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast [it] from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 "And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast [it] from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. ...
38 "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' 39 "But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40 "If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have [your] cloak also. 41 "And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two.

42 "Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away. 43 "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44 "But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 "that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 "For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
47 "And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more [than others]? Do not even the tax collectors do so? 48 "Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

I personally have a problem; I only love my enemies when they are dead; something just does not feel right about that. Oh well, I'll repent later. 🙂

@PuzZuLz said
@KingDavid403

That was 2000 years ago and doesn't apply anymore.

You're the type of Christian that will be slaughtered by the Muslims if they have their way.

You are a liar; and these are the Teachings of Christ which ALWAYS apply. Sorry liar. 🙂

@KingDavid403 said
You are a liar; and these are the Teachings of Christ which ALWAYS apply. Sorry liar. 🙂

When do Christians kill? Never?

If you think dying like that is noble you're wrong.

Nobody will remember your name.

@PuzZuLz said
When do Christians kill? Never?

If you think dying like that is noble you're wrong.

Nobody will remember your name.

Some things are more important than having one’s name remembered.

https://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/Explore/Monuments-and-Memorials/Tomb-of-the-Unknown-Soldier

@PuzZuLz said
When do Christians kill? Never?

If you think dying like that is noble you're wrong.

Nobody will remember your name.

Nobody will remember your name.
Jesus will. 🙂
If you think dying like that is noble you're wrong.
Dying like what?

When do Christians kill? Never?
You tell us?

@PuzZuLz said
When do Christians kill? Never?

If you think dying like that is noble you're wrong.

Nobody will remember your name.

Christ advised his disciples who were going to preach to carry a sword. The modern equivalent of that is to get a gun before going out into the world. Many Christians are confused about how they are to react to hostility and death threats.

@Rajk999 said
Christ advised his disciples who were going to preach to carry a sword. The modern equivalent of that is to get a gun before going out into the world. Many Christians are confused about how they are to react to hostility and death threats.

Yes, exactly right.

They seem to think a Christian shouldn't fight in any way. That mindset will have them being erased before the end of this century.

@KingDavid403 said
Nobody will remember your name.
Jesus will. 🙂
If you think dying like that is noble you're wrong.
Dying like what?

When do Christians kill? Never?
You tell us?

In the middle east, Christians are beheaded.

Christians in Africa also get slaughtered.

Would you fight back if that was happening in the USA? Or would a Christian just allow himself to be killed? Like it's some moral judgment tally with God and you dying like that means something?

Besides that, you hate Trump but the alternative is a path where Christians will be no longer.
Not in our lifetimes, we are fine, I'm talking about the year 2050 and up.

@PuzZuLz said
@AThousandYoung

Well at least the south american Christians will fight when needed.

The white Christians are going to be the first ones erased. 😄

Don’t be silly.

They turn the other cheek to build widespread outrage against the striker until eventually the wrath of God is released. It’s Abrahamic martyrdom 101.

Christians have never been soft including Protestants. Look at Oliver Cromwell. The man was hard as nails.

Gibbon made the same mistake you are making blaming Christianity’s “softness” for the fall of Rome.

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@PuzZuLz said
@KingDavid403

That was 2000 years ago and doesn't apply anymore.

Oh the arrogance of the Christian Nationalist. The words of Christ no longer need apply. Christianity is best in our own image. The huddled masses and the widow and the orphaned child, they're on their own. Not our neighbours, not our problem.

@PuzZuLz said
Yes, exactly right.

They seem to think a Christian shouldn't fight in any way. That mindset will have them being erased before the end of this century.

If you look at the Jews, their culture is based on the Torah. In these writings there is not sitting and allowing evil to thrive. Instead the concept of x7 or sevenfold repayment in the case of a thief - he had to repay 7 times what he stole. There was 7 fold vengeance etc. Hence when you attack they Jews, they exact a price far greater than the initial attack. The idea is to teach the instigator a lesson. Its a lesson Gaza learned in the last few years.

@kmax87 said
Oh the arrogance of the Christian Nationalist. The words of Christ no longer need apply. Christianity is best in our own image. The huddled masses and the widow and the orphaned child, they're on their own. Not our neighbours, not our problem.

#1 I'm not Christian.

#2 I'm telling them to get ready to fight if needed.

#3 Work on your reading comprehension.

#4 Focus on number 3

@Rajk999 said
If you look at the Jews, their culture is based on the Torah. In these writings there is not sitting and allowing evil to thrive. Instead the concept of x7 or sevenfold repayment in the case of a thief - he had to repay 7 times what he stole. There was 7 fold vengeance etc. Hence when you attack they Jews, they exact a price far greater than the initial attack. The idea is to teach the instigator a lesson. Its a lesson Gaza learned in the last few years.

Agreed 💯

Eye for an Eye should be the merciful method.

If I was Israel, I'd already being bulldozing the rubble into the sea and building resorts just because of Oct 7