SARS2 lab origin over 97% likely

@metal-brain said
Why do you think the email Collins sent with the subject line “conspiracy gains momentum" was kept secret?

Doesn't it seem odd they were so concerned over something they publicly said wasn't true? If they were not doing anything wrong why was the e-mail censored?

"Conspiracy gains momentum" hardly sounds like someone who actually believes the claims are valid.

@metal-brain said
Here is an excerpt from that link:

"Farrar then added, “Meanwhile….” and a link to an article at the ZeroHedge website with the headline, “Coronavirus Contains ‘HIV Insertions’, Stoking Fears Over Artificially Created Bioweapon.”

Fauci responded to that email by forwarding the email chain to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health, and ask ...[text shortened]... you think the email Collins sent with the subject line “conspiracy gains momentum" was kept secret?

Do you walk around with a sign taped to your back saying "Kick me"?

You should.

@metal-brain said
"Writing in an opinion piece for the Wall Street Journal, Dr. Steven Quay and Richard Muller pointed to two key pieces of evidence to support the claim, which has increasingly gained steam after long being derided as little more than speculation.

The first relates to the nature of gain-of-function research, in which microbiologists tweak a virus’ genome to alter its pr ...[text shortened]... tps://nypost.com/2021/10/10/the-lab-leak-theory-is-now-almost-certainly-proved-and-other-commentary/

.Who cares???....What is your point???

@no1marauder said
"Conspiracy gains momentum" hardly sounds like someone who actually believes the claims are valid.

Yet they dedicated significant time to it.

If the claim was so absurd why was there a need to censor the entire email exchange? Did they want to hide their ridicule of the Zero Hedge article?

Your explanation defies logic. What are they hiding?
Why hide comment on an invalid claim if there was no cover up?

@jimm619 said
.Who cares???....What is your point???

My point is that all of the writing in the e-mail "Conspiracy gains momentum" was redacted which makes it a big secret. Why is it a big secret?

Notice the title to the e-mail says conspiracy, not conspiracy theory. I suspect they took that Zero Hedge article very seriously. Why else would they make a big deal out of it? Then they redacted the whole conversation, not just parts of it. That sure makes me curious as to what they wrote to each other, especially since Fauci funded gain of function research at the Wuhan lab. Don't forget NORTH CAROLINA and Dr. Ralph Baric. Baric is known for doing gain of function research and Fauci admitted if GOF research was done it was done in NC....lol!

https://firstinfreedomdaily.com/covid-carolina-connection-senator-rand-paul-has-fiery-exchange-with-dr-fauci-on-gain-of-function-supervirus-research-by-unc-scientist-in-wuhan-and-north-carolina/

Then you have Baric sending an e-mail to Fauci thanking him for backing up the natural origin claim. Isn't that odd? Baric even called Fauci "courageous" for merely telling people what most of them believed at that time anyway. I don't see how that could be perceived as courageous, unless it was a lie.

Was Baric thanking Fauci for lying to take the heat off of Baric because he genetically engineered the SARS2 virus? Perhaps it didn't leak from Wuhan at all. Maybe it leaked from Baric's lab in NC? That might explain why (lie cheat and steal CIA man) Mike Pompeo pushed the lab leak theory only to place all blame on the Wuhan lab and nowhere else.

Dr. Ralph Baric should be investigated and the redacted emails from Collins and Fauci should be released. They obviously took that Zero Hedge article very seriously. The redactions support it too. Why else would it be redacted like it is top secret? Then you have a Nobel prize winner that discovered the HIV virus saying the SARS2 virus has segments from HIV in it just like the Zero Hedge article said.

The SARS2 virus is genetically engineered and they know it. Wuhan is suspect, but so is Baric. Notice that the corporate news media does not want to talk about Baric. Baric is highly suspect. He may have created SARS2.

@Metal-Brain
Misinformation campaign kicking into high gear it seems.

How many ultrarightwingnuts does it take to change a light bulb?

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
Misinformation campaign kicking into high gear it seems.

How many ultrarightwingnuts does it take to change a light bulb?

Baric sent an e-mail to Fauci thanking him for backing up the natural origin claim. Isn't that odd? Baric even called Fauci "courageous" for merely telling people what most of them believed at that time anyway. I don't see how that could be perceived as courageous, unless it was a lie.

I am merely repeating the news and asking questions. That is not misinformation. Biden believes SARS2 came from a lab too. Was he spreading misinformation? Fauci admitted it is possible after those emails were released. Did he spread misinformation?

If fact, Biden and Fauci helped the lab leak theory become mainstream opinion. You are a minority now.

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/07/09/poll-americans-now-believe-the-lab-leak-theory-52-28-including-majorities-in-both-parties-n401361

Nobody has found a zoonotic (natural origin) link. That is a problem for proponents of a natural origin. They cannot find one after all of this time. A lab origin would explain that.

@Metal-Brain
You are so full of shyte it is hard to imagine how you can even breathe.

@metal-brain said
Nobody has found a zoonotic (natural origin) link. That is a problem for proponents of a natural origin. They cannot find one after all of this time. A lab origin would explain that.

This is nonsense. Stop it.

@Metal-Brain

Several scientists have claimed already a long ago that it is pretty probable that this virus is manipulated in the lab. Mostly, their results have not been published in academic journals due to hidden censorship. Even very respectable experts have been forced to communicate through the internet, social media and local newspapers.

What is 100% sure is that it was technically absolutely possible in 2019 to create such a virus in the lab either using some bats' virus as a basis or even building it from zero.

It is controversial, however, whether it is possible to detect whether the virus has been made in the lab. In principle, it is possible to make such viruses that look quite natural.

@wildgrass said
This is nonsense. Stop it.

STOP LYING!

I made a factual statement. Factual statements are not nonsense. You stop it!
Scientists have failed to find a zoonotic origin of SARS2. That is a fact.

@metal-brain said
Yet they dedicated significant time to it.

If the claim was so absurd why was there a need to censor the entire email exchange? Did they want to hide their ridicule of the Zero Hedge article?

Your explanation defies logic. What are they hiding?
Why hide comment on an invalid claim if there was no cover up?

There are many reasons why a document obtained though a FOI request might be redacted. You could read the statute and find them listed.

It's a common tactic of conspiracy nuts to make sinister assumptions based on relatively innocuous practices like this when they lack any real evidence of their evil conspiracies. This is almost certainly a case in point.

@no1marauder said
There are many reasons why a document obtained though a FOI request might be redacted. You could read the statute and find them listed.

It's a common tactic of conspiracy nuts to make sinister assumptions based on relatively innocuous practices like this when they lack any real evidence of their evil conspiracies. This is almost certainly a case in point.

You cannot cite one single reason though. A conspiracy theory hardly seems like something that should be redacted unless the conspiracy theory is real.

Why are you defending the redaction of a discussion about a conspiracy theory? If Fauci and Collins didn't take it seriously why the redactions? It must not be a theory. Mere theories don't need redactions.

@Metal-Brain is right............
His name,
not his ideas.