Same Old GOP Stuff...Criticize and Obstruct

GOP Senators balk at Ukraine assistance.
https://news.yahoo.com/echoes-trump-gop-splinters-over-040847571.html

@jimm619
Democrats, of course, never criticize or obstruct.

@sleepyguy said
@jimm619
Democrats, of course, never criticize or obstruct.

'WHATABOUTTHEDEMS?', WHATABOUT', 'WHATABOUTISMS?'
Start another thread and cite an example
as I have done 😛

.......Clean up on aisle 2.

@jimm619 said
'WHATABOUTTHEDEMS?', WHATABOUT', 'WHATABOUTISMS?'
Start another thread and cite an example
as I have done 😛

I think the title of the thread starts things on the wrong foot.

Had you titled it something like: "GOP has a difference of opinion on Ukraine aid, let's discuss", it may have come across as an attempt to discuss Ukraine aid.

Also, you accuse the GOP of Criticism and Obstruction in the title of the thread, totally missing the irony that you are engaging in criticism due to your own title.

Maybe you can clarify the point of this thread. Is it to discuss whether or not the GOP criticizes and obstructs too much (especially compared with the democrats)? Or does it actually have something to do with Ukraine aid? Those would be too very different conversations.

@techsouth said
I think the title of the thread starts things on the wrong foot.

Had you titled it something like: "GOP has a difference of opinion on Ukraine aid, let's discuss", it may have come across as an attempt to discuss Ukraine aid.

Also, you accuse the GOP of Criticism and Obstruction in the title of the thread, totally missing the irony that you are engaging in criticism d ...[text shortened]... it actually have something to do with Ukraine aid? Those would be too very different conversations.

Ya' gotta' read the link.....
Thought we were a united front when
it came to aid for Ukraine.
Silly me............

@techsouth said
I think the title of the thread starts things on the wrong foot.

Had you titled it something like: "GOP has a difference of opinion on Ukraine aid, let's discuss", it may have come across as an attempt to discuss Ukraine aid.

Also, you accuse the GOP of Criticism and Obstruction in the title of the thread, totally missing the irony that you are engaging in criticism d ...[text shortened]... it actually have something to do with Ukraine aid? Those would be too very different conversations.

And .......... what exactly is the difference of opinion ?

Or is this just about Biden looking good on the world stage when leading the global response to Russian aggression ?

@mghrn55 said
And .......... what exactly is the difference of opinion ?

Or is this just about Biden looking good on the world stage when leading the global response to Russian aggression ?

Maybe the reason for this is that
BIDEN listened to
OUR OWN INTELLIGENCE SERVICES,
instead of listening to PUTIN as #45 famously stated,
in HELSINKI, that is what he (TRUMP) did.
Anyone wanna' see this again?..........Disgusting
YouTube
............'Ya think?

@jimm619 said
Maybe the reason for this is that
BIDEN listened to
OUR OWN INTELLIGENCE SERVICES,
instead of listening to PUTIN as #45 famously stated,
in HELSINKI, that is what he (TRUMP) did.
............'Ya think?

Here we are in 2022.
One political party threatens to hang another country out to dry for political gain ?

Have we seen this before ??
Ah ..... never mind !! Forget I asked !! 😲

@techsouth said
I think the title of the thread starts things on the wrong foot.

Had you titled it something like: "GOP has a difference of opinion on Ukraine aid, let's discuss", it may have come across as an attempt to discuss Ukraine aid.

Also, you accuse the GOP of Criticism and Obstruction in the title of the thread, totally missing the irony that you are engaging in criticism d ...[text shortened]... it actually have something to do with Ukraine aid? Those would be too very different conversations.

Are you, like them, a Russian apologist too?

@mghrn55 said
And .......... what exactly is the difference of opinion ?

Or is this just about Biden looking good on the world stage when leading the global response to Russian aggression ?

You tell me what the difference of opinion is.

Those that have opposed aid to Ukraine, presumably would have given a reason that is something different than "Let's make sure Biden doesn't look good on the world stage".

You might contend they are being disingenuous, but can you, or anyone who has disagreed with the GOP on this issue, present a summary of their argument and state it such that they would say you've correctly stated it?

So far, my entry into this thread has neither criticized the opponents nor criticized the proponents of aid to Ukraine. Obviously many here are strongly opinionated. So here is your chance. Tell me what the pros are, but also tell me what the cons are. If you can't tell me what the cons are, even if you don't agree with them, I know you're not a serious thinker.

@suzianne said
Are you, like them, a Russian apologist too?

I have not written nor uttered here, nor anywhere a single word in opposition to aid for Ukraine.

I am an enemy of bad arguments though. If you are certain that aid to Ukraine at the level that has been proposed is the only good choice, tell me how you reached that conclusion. And tell me how you've determined the amount of aide one must support in order to not be a "Russian apologist". For example, could a reasonable argument be made for giving half the amount currently being proposed?

@techsouth said
I have not written nor uttered here, nor anywhere a single word in opposition to aid for Ukraine.

I am an enemy of bad arguments though. If you are certain that aid to Ukraine at the level that has been proposed is the only good choice, tell me how you reached that conclusion. And tell me how you've determined the amount of aide one must support in order to not be a "R ...[text shortened]... or example, could a reasonable argument be made for giving half the amount currently being proposed?

What are you Some self appointed 'mental giant?
Most of the informed understand the pros and cons, I will not reiterate them for you.
My observation was mainly this;
I thought that aid to the besieged Ukrainians was
truly an issue that transcended party lines,
but now I notice, Republicans, and only Republicans,
are beginning to balk at BIDEN's aid package...
Kinda' looks like obstructionist efforts to me.

@techsouth said
Had you titled it something like: "GOP has a difference of opinion on Ukraine aid, let's discuss", it may have come across as an attempt to discuss Ukraine aid.

Sure, but it would have been dishonest. Because it is undeniably true that the Trumpist party obstructs any measure to make this planet a little better.

@techsouth said
I have not written nor uttered here, nor anywhere a single word in opposition to aid for Ukraine.

Maybe not, Marauder. But you sure have argued on the side of the rapists in all other threads.

We're not as naive as you think.

@shallow-blue said
Maybe not, Marauder. But you sure have argued on the side of the rapists in all other threads.

We're not as naive as you think.

No idea what you're talking about. I can't even fathom how one could construe any of my prior arguments to be in favor of rapists. If you think I am Marauder with a new account, consider that I have been a member here since 2005 and have played more than 1000 games.