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    The same way dictators all over the world rig their elections and never get caught. Elections are just there to fool people into thinking they live in a democracy. How do you know the USA is any different?
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    @metal-brain said
    @wildgrass
    The same way dictators all over the world rig their elections and never get caught. Elections are just there to fool people into thinking they live in a democracy. How do you know the USA is any different?
    that's not an answer to my question. You say that it could happen, but don't provide any plausible scenario.

    Here's the answer to your question: Exhaustive well funded research over decades. A pretty good list of efforts to find cheating and stealing are found here. If cheating and stealing is still happening despite all these investigations and court trials to find it, then you're talking about a vast conspiracy. A vast conspiracy to rig.elections, and also multibillion dollar campaigns to convince us legitimately to vote for a candidate. Seems unnecessary and unlikely.

    https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/ensure-every-american-can-vote/vote-suppression/myth-voter-fraud
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    @wildgrass said
    that's not an answer to my question. You say that it could happen, but don't provide any plausible scenario.

    Here's the answer to your question: Exhaustive well funded research over decades. A pretty good list of efforts to find cheating and stealing are found here. If cheating and stealing is still happening despite all these investigations and court trials to find it, ...[text shortened]... ttps://www.brennancenter.org/issues/ensure-every-american-can-vote/vote-suppression/myth-voter-fraud
    First of all before 2002 we did not allow international election observers.

    Russia had international election observers overseeing the referendum and they were accused of cherry picking the election observers that were sympathetic to Russia. How do you know international election observers overseeing US elections are from countries that matter? Are any of them from Iran, North Korea or Venezuela? How are these observers picked?

    edit: There were election observers in Venezuela and Carter certified the election.

    https://www.commentary.org/ben-cohen/jimmy-carter-gives-seal-of-approval-to-venezuela-election/

    Then the USA called Chavez a dictator.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/mar/11/sean-penn-hugo-chavez-venezuela

    Conclusion: The US government are election deniers. Everybody who denied the elections in Venezuela would not be able to run. That would be most of government. I actually like the idea of that. LOL

    Still unconstitutional though. It will never happen.
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    @metal-brain said
    First of all before 2002 we did not allow international election observers.

    Russia had international election observers overseeing the referendum and they were accused of cherry picking the election observers that were sympathetic to Russia. How do you know international election observers overseeing US elections are from countries that matter? Are any of them from Ir ...[text shortened]... nment. I actually like the idea of that. LOL

    Still unconstitutional though. It will never happen.
    imagine you're an internet poster with a knack for disruptive language. you post something on the internet built by a private company.

    the company says " no you cant post that"

    That's some of the freedom of speech fight that lies ahead of of us. It's not an easy question whether people should not only be able to post whatever they want on the internet, but also be able to post without reprecusson on a website managed by a for-profit company

    I don't know anythng man, we could all be reptoids or living in a simulation. But if you want to say frogs voted and you want people to believe you, show us. Your posted articles are garbage and irrelevant.
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    @metal-brain said
    @wildgrass
    The same way dictators all over the world rig their elections and never get caught. Elections are just there to fool people into thinking they live in a democracy. How do you know the USA is any different?
    They do get caught you halfwit but the clue is in the name, they are dictators, they are exactly what trump attempted to be, not so easy to dodge democracy in the US as your boss in the Kremlin thought though is it Ivan.
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    @wildgrass
    Still unconstitutional. It will never happen.
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    @metal-brain said
    @wildgrass
    Still unconstitutional. It will never happen.
    You still haven't described a plausible scenario in which a US election could be stolen, with all our safeguards.
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    @wildgrass said
    You still haven't described a plausible scenario in which a US election could be stolen, with all our safeguards.
    Still unconstitutional. It will never happen.
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    @metal-brain said
    Still unconstitutional. It will never happen.
    I disagree.
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    @wildgrass said
    I disagree.
    So you are determined to repeal the 1st constitutional amendment? When did you decide to become a Stalinist?
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    @wildgrass said
    imagine you're an internet poster with a knack for disruptive language. you post something on the internet built by a private company.

    the company says " no you cant post that"

    That's some of the freedom of speech fight that lies ahead of of us. It's not an easy question whether people should not only be able to post whatever they want on the internet, but also be abl ...[text shortened]... voted and you want people to believe you, show us. Your posted articles are garbage and irrelevant.
    A county in Pennsylvania that didn’t have enough paper ballots on Election Day failed to certify the results of the Nov. 8 midterms by the Nov. 28 deadline.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/pennsylvania-county-ran-out-oof-paper-ballots-fails-certify-election-results
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