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Originally posted by RJHindsMy suggestion to you Americans would be if you want oil, don't steal someone else's, destabilise their political regime and then piss off home and leave Europe to clear up your mess.
My suggestion is if they wish to get married, then move to Europe or Canada. 😏
Originally posted by Shallow BlueWhat's funny is Marauder is pretending not to know, especially after he has laid out all the special benefits married people get in past threads.
Tax credits.
Lower inheritance taxes.
AIUI, also higher child benefits, but I could be out of date on that.
Stronger legal protection.
What is even more funny is that if there are no special rights for marriage, why then do gays keep saying their rights are being violated by not being able to marry?
Hilarious! 😵
Originally posted by whodeyThe second question was answered less than a page ago:
What's funny is Marauder is pretending not to know, especially after he has laid out all the special benefits married people get in past threads.
What is even more funny is that if there are no special rights for marriage, why then do gays keep saying their rights are being violated by not being able to marry?
Hilarious! 😵
It gives the advantages I already mentioned; it avoids the necessity of making long, involved individual contracts to cover situations that the marriage contract implicitly covers by law.
26 Sep 15
Originally posted by Shallow BlueThere's no "tax credit" for being married. Until recently, there was a marriage penalty at certain levels of income.
Tax credits.
Lower inheritance taxes.
AIUI, also higher child benefits, but I could be out of date on that.
Stronger legal protection.
I don't believe there is any lower inheritance taxes either. It's kinda moot since there are basically no inheritance taxes in the US anymore except on the largest estates (top 1-2😵.
The child tax credit and deduction are the same for married and head of household AFAIK.
"Stronger legal protection" in what way?
26 Sep 15
Originally posted by no1marauderThe same ones you just noted in your earlier post.
Please name one "special right" that is "handed out to married people over single".
You are either simply blind, ignorant or a troll. I'm not entirely sure which one to tell you the truth.
26 Sep 15
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Originally posted by EladarI have no idea what you are talking about.
The same ones you just noted in your earlier post.
You are either simply blind, ignorant or a troll. I'm not entirely sure which one to tell you the truth.
And neither do you.
Marriage is a contract and the law recognizes and enforces that contract and its provisions. It recognizes and enforces all kinds of contracts. What's "special" then about doing so in the case of marriage?
26 Sep 15
Originally posted by no1marauderTwo observations:
I have no idea what you are talking about.
And neither do you.
Marriage is a contract and the law recognizes and enforces that contract and its provisions. It recognizes and enforces all kinds of contracts. So what is "special" about marriage?
You get to define the origins of marriage?
I thought you said that marriage did not bring special legal rights.
26 Sep 15
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Originally posted by EladarThe law defines secular marriage. For example in my State:
Two observations:
You get to define the origins of marriage?
I thought you said that marriage did not bring special legal rights.
§ 10. Marriage a civil contract. Marriage, so far as its validity in
law is concerned, continues to be a civil contract, to which the consent
of parties capable in law of making a contract is essential.
NYS Domestic Relations Law sec. 10
26 Sep 15
Originally posted by no1marauderJust because you are not interested in any other kind of marriage that does not negate religious marriages.
Because I'm uninterested in any other kind of marriage than one that is enforced by law. That is the topic of this thread.
I am of the opinion that the government has no right to intrude on anyone's relationship. The government should treat all relationships equally, if a couple decides to get married or remain single but live together in a loving monogamous relationship.
The government should stay out of the private lives off all citizens. Only government dominated society allows the government to define relationships between people and give certain relationships special rights.
26 Sep 15
Originally posted by EladarThere is no regulation of religious marriages and people are free to enter any kind of religious marriage they wish with no obstruction from the government whatsoever.
Just because you are not interested in any other kind of marriage that does not negate religious marriages.
I am of the opinion that the government has no right to intrude on anyone's relationship. The government should treat all relationships equally, if a couple decides to get married or remain single but live together in a loving monogamous relationshi ...[text shortened]... government to define relationships between people and give certain relationships special rights.
26 Sep 15
Originally posted by KazetNagorraIn some states there are laws about common law marriages which would kick in for religious marriages.
There is no regulation of religious marriages and people are free to enter any kind of religious marriage they wish with no obstruction from the government whatsoever.
In any case, that does not really have anything to do with my position that the government should not be involved in personal relationships. Government should stay out of everyone's bedrooms and homes.