09 Mar 10
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Originally posted by Seitse????? Yo, amigo, you best quit sluping the mescal....what are you jabbering about?
Oh well, oh well, oh well... Hi chancre! 😵
How's Jim, btw? Tell my compadre that I miss him around here and
that I hope that the young fella is doing better with his therapy.
Take care & keep caressing that pistol, my friend. It certainly saves
on shrink bills! 🙂
xxx ooo
09 Mar 10
Originally posted by zeeblebotwell duh! this link of course
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/7005887/Haiti-response-shows-the-difference-between-the-EU-and-a-superpower.html
...Haiti response shows the difference between the EU and a superpower.
Originally posted by kmax87
Before you get too comfortable in your contempt check out the link and compare US giving with the rest of the world as a proportion of GDP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarian_response_to_the_2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake
09 Mar 10
Originally posted by zeeblebotPower projection (the ability to deliver military might abroad) is an under appreciated dynamic when it comes to warfare. When it comes to power projection there isn't a country in the world that can hold a candle to the United States. There isn't even a close second.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/7005887/Haiti-response-shows-the-difference-between-the-EU-and-a-superpower.html
Haiti response shows the difference between the EU and a superpower
The earthquake in Haiti provoked prompt and effective action from the US, and waffle from the EU, says Christopher Booker
By Christophe ...[text shortened]... s' conference" in Jakarta nearly two weeks later to discuss what might be done.
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I agree with FMF that the EU isn't a military superpower, especially considering they're not one homogeneous military power. They're a collection of many countries, which combined can make a notable military force.
I'm on the fence whether the EU can be considered an economic superpower, but they are definitely substantial.
09 Mar 10
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperWell, I suppose you could argue the EU, despite the size of its economy (the biggest in the world if you regard it as a single economy), does not really have a homogeneous economic policy, at least not to the same degree as the US does, which does harm its "economic power".
Power projection (the ability to deliver military might abroad) is an under appreciated dynamic when it comes to warfare. When it comes to power projection there isn't a country in the world that can hold a candle to the United States. There isn't even a close second.
I agree with FMF that the EU isn't a military superpower, especially consider ...[text shortened]... ther the EU can be considered an economic superpower, but they are definitely substantial.
12 Mar 10
Originally posted by zeeblebot1.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/7005887/Haiti-response-shows-the-difference-between-the-EU-and-a-superpower.html
Haiti response shows the difference between the EU and a superpower
The earthquake in Haiti provoked prompt and effective action from the US, and waffle from the EU, says Christopher Booker
By Christophe ...[text shortened]... s' conference" in Jakarta nearly two weeks later to discuss what might be done.
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By Christopher Booker
Published: 6:49PM GMT 16 Jan 2010
2.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake
The earthquake occurred at 16:53 local time (21:53 UTC) on Tuesday, 12 January 2010.[4][5]
12 Mar 10
Originally posted by zeeblebotSo you deliberately quoted a 2 month old article that was probably already out of date 24 hours after it was published, and which contained blatant, unfunny and gross deceptions about the European contribution to the 2004 Tsunami response, in order to start a debate here and now in March 2010 about the nature of European contributions to disasters?
1. By Christopher Booker
Published: 6:49PM GMT 16 Jan 2010
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake
The earthquake occurred at 16:53 local time (21:53 UTC) on Tuesday, 12 January 2010.[4][5]
12 Mar 10
Originally posted by FMFThe dishonesty is even more obvious if you consider that in this case, the US army was already present in a "nation building" effort.
So you deliberately quoted a 2 month old article that was probably already out of date 24 hours after it was published, and which contained blatant, unfunny and gross deceptions about the European contribution to the 2004 Tsunami response, in order to start a debate here and now in March 2010 about the nature of European contributions to disasters?
13 Mar 10
Originally posted by FMFi doubt it was out of date 24 hours after it was published, if it was published 96 hours after the earthquake.
So you deliberately quoted a 2 month old article that was probably already out of date 24 hours after it was published, and which contained blatant, unfunny and gross deceptions about the European contribution to the 2004 Tsunami response, in order to start a debate here and now in March 2010 about the nature of European contributions to disasters?
how do you know booker is wrong re the 2004 tsunami? maybe he's just talking about the EU itself, not the individual member states.
you could pop the question in the comments section on his article if you like.
13 Mar 10
Originally posted by zeeblebotThe E.U. sent U.S.$615 million in aid to the countries affected by the tsunami, not Euro 3 million as stated by Booker in your OP. This money was collected from its member states, who in turn also sent aid individually.
how do you know booker is wrong re the 2004 tsunami? maybe he's just talking about the EU itself, not the individual member states.
13 Mar 10
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/311932,eu-pledges-over-4-million-dollars-to-chile-quake-aid.html
Brussels- The European Union is to spend over 4 million dollars on emergency aid to help Chile deal with the aftermath of a devastating earthquake that killed more than 700 people, the bloc's commissioner for humanitarian aid said on Monday. "As an act of solidarity with the Chilean people we are making 3 million euros (4.08 million dollars) available immediately to organizations working on the ground, so they can step up their response in the first, most critical days after the earthquake," Kristalina Georgieva said in a statement.
Under EU rules, 3 million euros is the maximum the bloc can pay out from its shared budget in immediate emergency aid for any one disaster.
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13 Mar 10
Originally posted by zeeblebotPerhaps you should read up and what the EU is and what it does. The EU is not a country. It's not a federation. It's an economic union, which primarily aims to encourage trade between its member states.
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/311932,eu-pledges-over-4-million-dollars-to-chile-quake-aid.html
Brussels- The European Union is to spend over 4 million dollars on emergency aid to help Chile deal with the aftermath of a devastating earthquake that killed more than 700 people, the bloc's commissioner for humanitarian aid said on Monday. "As an a ...[text shortened]... oc can pay out from its shared budget in immediate emergency aid for any one disaster.
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13 Mar 10
Originally posted by zeeblebotWell, the E.U. sent U.S.$615 million in aid to the countries affected by the tsunami. It was a disaster that affected 12 or more countries across about a third of the globe, killed 200,000 or so, in thousands of towns and villages. The E.U. sent U.S.$615 million in aid. It's not a secret. And your wriggling makes no difference to your sheer dishonesty in posting an article like that, with phony figures like that, to start a debate over the 'superpowerdom' of the E.U.
Under EU rules, 3 million euros is the maximum the bloc can pay out from its shared budget in immediate emergency aid for any one disaster.
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