@athousandyoung said
In the Jake Gardner case self defense was no defense.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/15/us/james-scurlock-omaha-indicted.html

That was a terrible miscarriage of justice.

@dood111 said
If it's not "the law" then why do people get exonerated when they use a gun to defend themselves against an attacker beating the snot out of them that is unarmed?

I already explained this.

""The use of deadly force is only permissible where one is in imminent danger of death or serious injury."

That's why Zimmerman had to dress up his story with claims that Martin said he was going to kill him and grabbed for the gun. Zimmerman was a cop wannabe and knew that merely losing a fight wouldn't be enough for a self-defense claim.

BTW, why aren't you man enough to apologize for calling me a "liar"? And if that's too much for your ego, simply remove the offending post.

@dood111 said
That was a terrible miscarriage of justice.

Here's another example (one of many):

"Video from the following morning shows DiPenti driving by Ferrell’s house and Ferrell running out to confront and argue with him. Several hours later, DiPenti is seen walking in the street near Ferrell’s house, and Ferrell again goes outside to confront him. The two men are seen wrestling in the street.

With DiPenti on top, Ferrell pulled a handgun, warned DiPenti that he was armed, and placed the gun against DiPenti’s head.

Ferrell testified that he fired once, and only after DiPenti refused to get off him and reached for the gun. The fatal shot struck DiPenti in the chest."

https://www.dispatch.com/news/20191021/jury-decides-shooting-during-street-fight-was-murder-not-self-defense