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    I condemned Trump for this kind of bullcrap and I am going to do it to Biden too. He is spouting the same rhetoric as Trump did.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/07/15/biden_communism_is_a_universally_failed_system.html

    No Joe. You cannot impose a trade embargo on a country and claim it failed on it's own. That amounts to sabotage. You have to stop sabotaging a country before you can say it is a universal failure. The trade embargo is a universal failure. It hurts every country it is imposed on.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba
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    @metal-brain said
    I condemned Trump for this kind of bullcrap and I am going to do it to Biden too. He is spouting the same rhetoric as Trump did.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/07/15/biden_communism_is_a_universally_failed_system.html

    No Joe. You cannot impose a trade embargo on a country and claim it failed on it's own. That amounts to sabotage. You have to stop sabot ...[text shortened]... every country it is imposed on.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba
    Yes they spend decade after decade trying to crush a state economically, politically and militarily and then declare it a failed state. The US is globalised capitalism’s attack dog even though their own capitalist system fails it’s citizens again and again.
    If it wasn’t so sad it would be hilarious.
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    @kevcvs57 said
    Yes they spend decade after decade trying to crush a state economically, politically and militarily and then declare it a failed state. The US is globalised capitalism’s attack dog even though their own capitalist system fails it’s citizens again and again.
    If it wasn’t so sad it would be hilarious.
    How has capitalism failed in the USA. No emotion please.
    This question hasnever been answered.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    How has capitalism failed in the USA. No emotion please.
    This question hasnever been answered.
    Homelessness, mass addiction to opioids, mass shootings of schoolchildren on a regular basis, lack of decent healthcare for the poor and jobless, lack of funding for basic infrastructure. That list is not definitive just a few off the top of my head and no emotion at all.
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    @kevcvs57 said
    Homelessness, mass addiction to opioids, mass shootings of schoolchildren on a regular basis, lack of decent healthcare for the poor and jobless, lack of funding for basic infrastructure. That list is not definitive just a few off the top of my head and no emotion at all.
    Thanks Kev.
    Capitalism, which has 7m jobs for the taking, has not caused homelessness. I just gave $5 to a guy standing on a corner with a help-me sign. Can not resist, but he looked healthy to me, maybe 45. I was healthy and working at 45. Go figure.

    Capitalism causes opioid addiction. Hilarious.

    Our brothers in Chicago killed 7 yesterday. That darn Capitalism again!!!

    You are wrong about healthcare. If a person gets covid and is hospitalized for 12 nights, it is all paid for. He pays nothing. Why, he could be a fan of socialism, and still get this coverage. Hilarious again. If you are talking about regular healthcare, there is insurance and many varieties of it., and ER. Easy to find in a capitalistic society, so I dont get you there. As to poor and jobless. Jobs are available, you are wrong on that. The poor? I tell you what, get your congressman to get capitalism to pay for those 40M poor and stop with the other social entitlements, and you will see Capitalism work like it is supposed to. We will PAY for those poor people, with capitalistic money, which will be easy if we don't have to pay for losers.

    Capitalists LOVE infrastructure, they make money with their companies and machinery fixing bridges. Dont get you there,, except that you may be asking for the money to pay for it? Have you seen all the Art Programs like the Kennedy Center etc and social crap Biden is giving Millions and Millions to? This is where the infrastructure money could be derived from. We capitalists have the money, thank you very much. Biden is wasting it in the wrong way.

    Fun, huh? No emotion. We need to send Sonhouse some pills. I've gotten sort of scared to write him, to tell the truth.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    How has capitalism failed in the USA. No emotion please.
    This question hasnever been answered.
    Why were the big banks bailed out? That was a failure.
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    Why were the big banks bailed out? That was a failure.
    Why? Because big business needed to raid public funds and their stooges are in power.
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    Why? Because big business needed to raid public funds and their stooges are in power.
    Exactly. It was Fascism.
    Capitalism leads to Fascism.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    Thanks Kev.
    Capitalism, which has 7m jobs for the taking, has not caused homelessness. I just gave $5 to a guy standing on a corner with a help-me sign. Can not resist, but he looked healthy to me, maybe 45. I was healthy and working at 45. Go figure.

    Capitalism causes opioid addiction. Hilarious.

    Our brothers in Chicago killed 7 yesterday. That darn Capitalis ...[text shortened]... . We need to send Sonhouse some pills. I've gotten sort of scared to write him, to tell the truth.
    7m low paid jobs you mean like the ones that increase your chances of getting covid yeah cheers capitalism. You need to do better as a defender of cowboy capitalism.

    “Capitalism causes opioid addiction. Hilarious.”
    Halfwit the reason for the opioid pandemic is the profit obsession of big pharma and kickbacks to a health system that finds opioid prescription a cheap option to actually treating the patient. So yes Sherlock the opioid pandemic is a direct result of capitalism unleashed and out of public control.
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    @metal-brain said
    I condemned Trump for this kind of bullcrap and I am going to do it to Biden too. He is spouting the same rhetoric as Trump did.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/07/15/biden_communism_is_a_universally_failed_system.html

    No Joe. You cannot impose a trade embargo on a country and claim it failed on it's own. That amounts to sabotage. You have to stop sabot ...[text shortened]... every country it is imposed on.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba
    Dude...stopping talking sensibly. You're scaring me.
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    @kevcvs57 said
    7m low paid jobs you mean like the ones that increase your chances of getting covid yeah cheers capitalism. You need to do better as a defender of cowboy capitalism.

    “Capitalism causes opioid addiction. Hilarious.”
    Halfwit the reason for the opioid pandemic is the profit obsession of big pharma and kickbacks to a health system that finds opioid prescription a cheap optio ...[text shortened]... s Sherlock the opioid pandemic is a direct result of capitalism unleashed and out of public control.
    I love the way you libs whine about low paying jobs. Like, they are all low paying? A person that wants to, #1, work, and #2, make money can succeed. He may start low at hamburgers, but he moves up. Didn't you? I did. started at a gas station during college, ate peanut butter sandwiches, 35-cent chicken pot pies and a head of lettuce. You see, I left that job for a better job. Do you want a job to start at $40K? I never know what you fellers are driving at, asking for the impossible.

    Oh, I see what you are saying about opioids. But you leave out one factor....they must be taken properly, so that one is not 'hooked' on them. You know, take them as prescribed. So, apply that common sense approach, and you will then see that the manufacture and pricing of them (by capitalists) does not mean that that causes addiction.......the patient self-addicts. You fellers are REALLY into hand-holding. Most people make decisions on their own, like people with independent reasoning. Hey, if a guy puts cocaine in his system, whose fault is it that he dies?
    Sincerely, Sherlock.
    Throw me another one.
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    @metal-brain said
    I condemned Trump for this kind of bullcrap and I am going to do it to Biden too. He is spouting the same rhetoric as Trump did.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/07/15/biden_communism_is_a_universally_failed_system.html

    No Joe. You cannot impose a trade embargo on a country and claim it failed on it's own. That amounts to sabotage. You have to stop sabot ...[text shortened]... every country it is imposed on.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba
    Nonsense. There is no law, or moral stance that can force a country to trade with any other country. All countries stand on their own and are free to choose who they wish to have dealings with. Of course the freer the trade the more prosperous both countries are. The less barriers to free movement of labour and capital the more prosperity as well for both countries. Aligning yourself to the right country is critical for long-term success. Cuba chose the option of not aligning itself to western countries by moving to a USSR communist political system. Its their own fault.
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    @vivify said
    Dude...stopping talking sensibly You're scaring me
    I always talk sensibly. You simply don't know it yet.

    I think Biden and Trump are both creeps. I am not a partisan creature like many people on here. I am a socialist and I see little difference between Trump and Biden. They are both too for to the right in my opinion. Both sleezy figureheads for the criminal Plutocracy.

    Some day you will come to realize I was right about almost everything.
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    Nonsense. There is no law, or moral stance that can force a country to trade with any other country. All countries stand on their own and are free to choose who they wish to have dealings with. Of course the freer the trade the more prosperous both countries are. The less barriers to free movement of labour and capital the more prosperity as well for both countries. Aligning ...[text shortened]... ing itself to western countries by moving to a USSR communist political system. Its their own fault.
    There is no law, or moral stance that can force a country to adopt a specific political system and abandon another.

    The US government is afraid socialism can compete with capitalism. The assertion that socialism is a universal failure is a dirty lie. If my government honestly didn't think socialism could compete with capitalism there would be no need to sabotage foreign economies.

    Why else would they have to resort to sabotage? It is like beating your child and telling him he is a failure and beating him some more. Then when his low self esteem child doesn't do well in life his father says "see, I told you he was a failure who wouldn't amount to anything".

    You are defending bullying.
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    @metal-brain said
    I always talk sensibly. You simply don't know it yet.

    I think Biden and Trump are both creeps. I am not a partisan creature like many people on here. I am a socialist and I see little difference between Trump and Biden. They are both too for to the right in my opinion. Both sleezy figureheads for the criminal Plutocracy.

    Some day you will come to realize I was right about almost everything.
    Both too far to the right?? Biden?
    See this link if you want to see his underbelly. Look or not, but it is to apprise everyone here that when a poster like yourself writes that Biden is not a lefty, not a socialist, that poster is being disingenuous and wasting the time of this Forum. Please try a little adult debating, you are getting like that Handy Andy character. High school stuff

    https://www.newsweek.com/joe-bidens-systemic-socialism-opinion-1591299
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