Originally posted by utherpendragon
There was a very clear definition of what a terrorist is and what terrorism is until the Obama administration got in there.

Bovine excrement. If there was, can you provid the concise and clear definition that was officially used?

Originally posted by utherpendragon
The first world trade center bombing? The Berlin discotheque bombing? they dont count?

Funny you should omit the Oklahoma City bombing.

Originally posted by PsychoPawn
Bovine excrement. If there was, can you provid the concise and clear definition that was officially used?

Terrorism: any intentionally violent action that does not serve the interests of the United States

Originally posted by sh76
The Berlin bombing wasn't in the US (last I checked) and the WTC bombing - one incident is not enough to remove something from being negligible.

People die in shark attacks but the risk of dying in a shark attack is negligible.

How many people who are attacked by sharks survive?

What are the chances you will be attacked by sharks va being in a terrorist attack?

Originally posted by sh76
The Berlin bombing wasn't in the US (last I checked) and the WTC bombing - one incident is not enough to remove something from being negligible.

People die in shark attacks but the risk of dying in a shark attack is negligible.

Either was the USS Cole. Its about who were the targets. At the disco it was U.S. servicemen.The same goes for the Marine barracks bombing in Beirut.

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Yes, but since we don't have an alternative universe where the "war on terror" didn't happen, it'll be hard to judge whether or not it worked.

Seeing as Bin Laden said the goal would be to get us to spend ourselves into bankruptcy:

"We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said "

I'd argue that the "war on terror" has been pretty successful from his (bin laden's) point of view.

Originally posted by Soothfast
Hang on -- terror is a noun. What's Jon on about there?

So it is! I guess the joke's on me and Jon.

Originally posted by utherpendragon
Either was the USS Cole. Its about who were the targets. At the disco it was U.S. servicemen.The same goes for the Marine barracks bombing in Beirut.

If attacks on US servicemen outside of the USA count as terrorist attacks, then we've had plenty since 9/11.

Originally posted by PsychoPawn
The war on terror is unwinnable.

Absolutely. The terrorists (and god damn... there's a lot of them around...) only have to realise that they should attack the financial markets via the internet and all hell will break loose.

Originally posted by shavixmir
Absolutely. The terrorists (and god damn... there's a lot of them around...) only have to realise that they should attack the financial markets via the internet and all hell will break loose.

Im not sure al-qaida sees computer hacking as a legitimate form of jihad, they want martyrs not computer nerds.

Originally posted by shavixmir
Absolutely. The terrorists (and god damn... there's a lot of them around...) only have to realise that they should attack the financial markets via the internet and all hell will break loose.

Bah... the banks and the financial companies destroy themselves. They don't need terrorists to do anything, just credit default swaps and their already existing greed.

Originally posted by shavixmir
Absolutely. The terrorists (and god damn... there's a lot of them around...) only have to realise that they should attack the financial markets via the internet and all hell will break loose.

You want the "anonymous" movement I think.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
You want the "anonymous" movement I think.

I have absolutely no idea what you are about.

Originally posted by PsychoPawn
Bovine excrement. If there was, can you provid the concise and clear definition that was officially used?

....wikileaks will be running that over the next couple of weeks.....stay tuned.....

Originally posted by generalissimo
Im not sure al-qaida sees computer hacking as a legitimate form of jihad, they want martyrs not computer nerds.

...especially since the nerds already have vaults of 'virgins' in chat-rooms and porn sites all over the net to not be tempted by paradise just yet....