06 May 16
Originally posted by FishHead111You no nothing of English Law.
You keep posting Trespass TO LAND articles.
Someone's home is an entirely different thing .
Walk into a stranger's home at 2 in the morning and say it's not a crime because the door wasn't locked and see what the police have to say about it when they haul you off. It IS a criminal trespass.
It scares me that people as thick as you are allowed to vote.
We are not talking about US law.
(Though I'd be interested to know what the US
view is on trespass from someone who knows)
06 May 16
Originally posted by wolfgang59Neither do you.
You no nothing of English Law.
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it is NOT legal to go wandering into people's homes in England just because you feel like it and the door wasn't locked.
Where do you people get such retarded ideas?
Just walk up the street in a nice neighborhood jiggling doorknobs and see what happens.
06 May 16
NZ Law was strengthened in 1980 (presumably it was same as UK until then)
If someone trespasses on your property you can give them a written notice which
effectively withdraws permission for them to be there. If they trespass in the next
2 years it is a criminal offence.
Trespass notices are typically issued by malls and shops and public buildings to
non-desirables ... misbehaving youths, potential shop-lifters etc.
IT IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW TO TRESPASS UNTIL SERVED WITH A NOTICE
http://communitylaw.org.nz/community-law-manual/chapter-11-neighbour-disputes/trespass-chapter-11/
Originally posted by wolfgang59All of which ignores the RIDICULOUS claim that going into someone's home is OK and not a criminal trespass.
NZ Law was strengthened in 1980 (presumably it was same as UK until then)
If someone trespasses on your property you can give them a written notice which
effectively withdraws permission for them to be there. If they trespass in the next
2 years it is a criminal offence.
Trespass notices are typically issued by malls and shops and public buildings t ...[text shortened]... tp://communitylaw.org.nz/community-law-manual/chapter-11-neighbour-disputes/trespass-chapter-11/
God yer stoopit.
Think I'll start walking into people's homes late at night or in the middle of the day when no one's home and tell them it's OK when they come out to see WTF since you say it's not against the law to do so.
Idiots.
Morons.
Chit heads
06 May 16
Originally posted by FishHead111Why not read the link?
All of which ignores the RIDICULOUS claim that going into someone's home is OK and not a criminal trespass.
God yer stoopit.
If someone enters my home (and where I live we all keep our doors
unlocked during the day) I have to ask them to leave. Only when they
refuse to leave does it become a criminal offence. THAT IS NZ LAW.
In practice the request to leave is best made formerly in writing.
That is a change from 1980. Previously the law would have mimicked UK Law.
(that is a supposition - I could be wrong there)
In UK Law trespass IS NOT a criminal act.
It doesn't matter whether you like it or not!
06 May 16
Originally posted by FishHead111A few years ago my car got stuck on a small bridge when the bridge partially collapsed.
Think I'll start walking into people's homes late at night or in the middle of the day when no one's home and tell them it's OK when they come out to see WTF since you say it's not against the law to do so.
It was 7am (I'd been walking dogs in the woods)
I walked a few hundred metres to the nearest house to use a phone.
After knocking on the door I let myself in to see if I could find a phone.
The owner appeared after a few mins in his dressing gown - an elderly gent.
He offered me a cup of tea while I went through the Yellow Pages for a tow truck number.
He didn't call the police.
He didn't tell me to leave.
I guess in the US he would have shot me?
I know what trespass law I prefer.
I know what society I prefer.
Originally posted by wolfgang59OK I get it.
A few years ago my car got stuck on a small bridge when the bridge partially collapsed.
It was 7am (I'd been walking dogs in the woods)
I walked a few hundred metres to the nearest house to use a phone.
After knocking on the door I let myself in to see if I could find a phone.
The owner appeared after a few mins in his dressing gown - an elderly gent. ...[text shortened]... e US he would have shot me?
I know what trespass law I prefer.
I know what society I prefer.
In England anyone can walk into anyone else's home at any hour and it's OK, it's not a crime.
Thank you for straightening me out on that.
Glad I'm not English.
By the way I don't believe your story for a second. You are making that chit up.
06 May 16
Originally posted by wolfgang59In the UK there are offences of criminal and aggravated trespass, see the Criminal Justice Act of 1994, the trigger for that is interfering with lawful activities and not leaving when asked so to do. In this case in the OP the trespasser engaged in threatening behaviour which is enough to make it aggravated trespass in the UK. It should be noted that in the UK a house holder cannot legally own a handgun. I'd also draw your attention to the case of Tony Martin [1] who shot a 15 year old intruder dead when he was attempting to flee and, although initially convicted for murder, the conviction was reduced to manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility and he was released after serving three years.
Why not read the link?
If someone enters my home (and where I live we all keep our doors
unlocked during the day) I have to ask them to leave. Only when they
refuse to leave does it become a criminal offence. THAT IS NZ LAW.
In practice the request to leave is best made formerly in writing.
That is a change from 1980. Previously the law would ha ...[text shortened]... ere)
In UK Law trespass IS NOT a criminal act.
It doesn't matter whether you like it or not!
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(farmer)
07 May 16
Originally posted by shavixmirBut they can't walk into homes for the hell of it now eff the eff off and try to come up with something relevant next time sewer-boy.
I don't know, off by heart, about homes, but England does have rambling laws.
These are laws which permit people to use old routes for walking, no matter who's land they cross.
So, you can ramble pretty much over anyone's land legally.