@averagejoe1said I dont know what this means, you are sonhouse. Note you do not mention the bond amounts being a bit out of balance, which is the onlly issue of this thread. Wimp.
Madoff put up a $10 million BAIL bond against him absconding and not turning up in court for his trial.
Trump is simply being asked to stump up 175 million of his 450 million fine pending his appeal against size of the award against him
If you cannot tell the difference between these two things then please refrain from posting outside the ‘Sports’ forum you dumbass
@averagejoe1said It is not your property, thousand. I mean, it is not the cretin’s property, so it must still be yours. So write cliff back, tell him, “you got me!” Be the first faerie to do that. Make a name for yourself.
Hahaha countless fairies have had your ass for lying, more fairies than the number of angels who can fit on a pin head.in fact
The first indeed ππ
@Earl-of-Trumps Yes it’s baked into the floatation contract, Trump is truth social, it’s a one man lie inflater and the only people on it are his base, imagine if trump sold his stock and walked away, the other shareholders would be left with a pocket full of Trump jizz
Oh sorry were you going to speculate that Biden has weaponised the finance sector for electoral interference purposes
@averagejoe1said So, to the point, should Trump, your syndrome notwithstanding, be adjudged a $455m bond, when a criminal defrauder, who ruined hundreds of lives and caused suicides, was only required to post a bond of $10M?
True, Trump could receive a severe sentence, or whatever, and you can predict and opine as to the outcome of the matter, but do you think the bond at 40 times that of Madoff is reasonable.?
“ YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF BOND PAYMENT.
Madoff was always going to jail Trump was always only paying a fine, because it’s obvious that loser Trump could not find 450 million in time for payment they’ve taken 175 million bond payment in lieu of the full payment when his appeal fails.
Perhaps Trump should go to jail and only put up a 10 million, works for me”
@averagejoe1said So, to the point, should Trump, your syndrome notwithstanding, be adjudged a $455m bond, when a criminal defrauder, who ruined hundreds of lives and caused suicides, was only required to post a bond of $10M?
True, Trump could receive a severe sentence, or whatever, and you can predict and opine as to the outcome of the matter, but do you think the bond at 40 times that of Madoff is reasonable.?
You mean when another criminal fraudster goes to jail.
Yeah it’s a miscarriage of justice, if Trump wasn’t the rich hump he was with the GOP in his back pocket he’d be in jail too
@wajomasaid Lead sail designer, fit, healthy, not over weight dies of heart attack at 47 years old, what was a requirement of international travel recently?
@sonhousesaid @kevcvs57 Don't forget, repubs have weaponized gerrymandering to the point where it doesn't matter how many dems vote they still win. That has not been overlooked finally, by the courts.
It wasn’t overlooked it was celebrated with champagne on a corporate owned Lear jet.
Keeping the peasants in their place is the role of SCOTUS
@zahlanzisaid " That phrase is used when a panel, a judge, or a jury ‘finds’ someone to be innocent."
You are right. I misspoke., She was already innocent. She didn't get before a judge jury or panel so she remained innocent.
I should have said "no evidence of her being guilty of anything was found".
Good catch
"So, she still must face a jury, at least."
For what crime. You th ...[text shortened]... r with Comey? He ‘found her’ innocent."
You can't help it. You're stupid in a very hilarious manner
Opinions of lawyers are worth exactly zero Joe
It’s the opinions of them prosecutors, jurors and judges you have to worry son
@averagejoe1said Madoff went to jail AFTER the bond period. So your saying that is irrelevant, and Trump could go to jail, of course. Why do you mention jail, Kev, how long you been debating. It is not part of th this issue, start a thread on jail for Bernie and Donald. Whew.
YOur stayng he did not have 450 Million, which he likley did, is also irrelevant. YOu boys are floundering. Trump charged with loan fraud, Bernie defrauded too.
You re losing it.
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF BOND PAYMENT.
Madoff was always going to jail Trump was always only paying a fine, because it’s obvious that loser Trump could not find 450 million in time for payment they’ve taken 175 million bond payment in lieu of the full payment when his appeal fails.
Perhaps Trump should go to jail and only put up a 10 million, works for me
@moonbussaid Trump has friends in rich places who don't want him to fail.
It’s real simple, I’ll explain it to you. In a certain sense, Trump is quite right that he is being pursued by the justice system, and that if the justice system succeeds in hanging a charge on him and making it stick, then the justice department will carry on and pursue other people as well. The thing is, the cl ...[text shortened]... either avoid these court cases or somehow survive them, even if they despise the man’s personality.
Ha excellent synopsis of the Trump Presidential grift, usually the grift is bseed on the greed of the mark but this one is based on the seething hatred that a section of US society has for itself that they have projected onto everyone else who’s not them.
It’s sad and scary to watch. It’s how death camps get built
@averagejoe1said Save it man. You got nuthin’.
Trump repaid his loans with interest the bank made money. You must be watching the wrong news channel.
HE CHEATED THE BANK AND ITS INVESTORS / SHAREHOLDERS OUT OFTHE HIGHER INTEREST RATES HE SHOULD HAVE PAID BASED ON HIS ACTUAL COLLATERAL VALUE DUMBASS
Oh yeah and he got caught because he is also a dumbass
@averagejoe1said I figured that y'all could thresh that out, so see if you can thresh this one.
BERNIE MADOFF BOND WAS $10 MILLION.
He was responsible ofr the largest Ponzi scheme in history, defrauded thousands of investors out of Tens of BILLIONS of dollars over the course of 17 years. SOME committed suicide.
DONALD TRUMP BOND $455 MILLION
NO VICTIMS, Banks paid back ...[text shortened]... Bond $10M. Bond $455 Million.
Comments , again? Sonhouse will have to really think on this one.
BERNIE MADOFF WENT TO JAIL DUMBASS his bond was based on his likelihood to abscond but his punishment was jail time and I doubt he had access to 450 million
Your talking about two different types of bonds you halfwit, Trump is welching on a fine imposed by a court for committing loan fraud, jeezo you people are so dumb you’ll probably pay the orange billionaires legal fees and fines for him.
DOH! Too late π
@averagejoe1said Surely you must know that an end to democracy would mean that McHill and Shav and Zhalanzi and sueprrson and Marauder and Kev would get my stuff. My money,,,,my stuff. And you would get my Loar.
So, you are wrong, I Will go with democracy.
Only in reality where you actually had stuff Joe, the basement and everything in it belong to your mama.