https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/05/biden-books-bad-sales-trump-00113793

Seriously, who is interested in him? I think that we can definitely conclude that all presidential votes will be, quite simply, votes against Trump.
Further, I sayeth not.

@sh76 said
If that's the case, the defendant would have to walk. A person cannot be convicted without a jury trial (unless he waives it) and if that can't be provided, then there can be no conviction.

How can anyone who simply watches the news not be biased? Just the film clips of a president who has to be led around like a dog would cause be to biased about such a man sitting in the Oval. Or what if SHouse was on a jury in the Trump cases, he would not even bother with the evidence, he has seen enough. I impaneled a jury once, and in the voir dire, when asked about her thoughts, the woman looked at the defendant sitting there, and said.." I can tell by lookiing at him, he is Guilty!" She was let go.

@zahlanzi said
the same way was pointing a gun at everyone you meet before they attack you isn't defense

I'll thumbup as well on this post. Zahlanzi has promise! Is he a libertarian, or more of a strong get-things-done kinda guy?

@wajoma said
No one is saying 'libertarian utopia' except the boot lickers putting up their stupid tired strawman to burn down, weeee, weeee.

Libertarian military policy is non-interventionist, defense only. What's called supposed defense now equals hundreds of bases all over the world. Like spruce I don't think you want to discuss the issue seriously. A quick google would have rendered your bait OP redundant.

I'd missed this about libertarians. They are 'defense only'?? If Truman had been a libertarian, would he have NOT bombed hell out of the japs? Interesting. Well, I guess I will leave being a libertarian up to other people.

@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
You really think it is just Trump letting off steam? There is a pattern here, Trump says something negative about person X, people show up at X's door screaming and yelling. This is not Trump letting off steam, it is Trump issuing instructions to his followers, a call to action. Like what happened to the Freeman family. Of course people like you are unable to see anything like that going on due to your blindness following your religious leader Donald Trump.

But, do you not see??? THAT is his method, the method in his madness. You yourself are saying here..."There is a pattern here'. Riiiiiiighht.
Now you will retort...Av Joe says Trump is mad!! Well, you are a tad mad. Anyone who suffers from TDS is mad, Sonhouse. Bless you.

@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
You clearly DON'T get 'IT' and never will, you are blind to anything bad Trump does and if he does one thing good it covers 1000 bad things he does like putting 5000 children in cages where you go YEAH? OBAMA built the cages like he knew a sociopath would use them to rip families apart and you approve because you don't think of those people as actual humans, on ...[text shortened]... n trafficers, cartel members, ISIS terrorists, NEVER as just people trying to escape all that shyte.

Don't be telling me what I think!!!! oops, sorry, haven't had my coffee yet.
Ha, we all KNOW what you think..... Well, except for that one thing that you never answered me about, so, I don't know what you think about that.

@wildgrass said
Biden took one of my shoes and hid it somewhere in my house. Right after I gave up looking and bought a whole new pair, it showed up under the bed.

Thanks a lot Biden.

I don’t get it.
But what did you think about Sleepy Joe? Do you not find Trump to be quite introspective to have called him Sleepy Joe 6 years ago?
How did he know? Y’all say he doesn’t know anything?!?! So confusing.
Hey I’m going to tell you about the cannibals eating Biden’s uncle on another thread

@averagejoe1 said
We are all waiting for this key debate moment,,,,,,Shav will tell us all where AVJoe has been wrong.

Shav?!?!? Can you tell our friends and me where I have been wrong? Not something of opinion, like we should have bombed Hiroshima , about which I opined. Instead, flat out wrong’ post of mine.

@spruce112358 said
Juries should be selected completely at random and you get what you get. Anything else is biased. This is also very quick.

Juries should also not ‘hang.’ If the main jury hangs, ask the alternates to vote. If they hang, the judge should decide.

Are you a gambler, Spruce? Whew. What if I am a biker covered in tattoos, and 12 little old gray haired ladies are on the jury? Or, what if I get lucky and get 12 free-wheeling bikers, people like the tattooed Shav, on the jury?
We would all know the verdict before the trial starts!!! LOL.

I do think that they should not require unanimous verdict. Something else, maybe, like you say with alternates.

Judge Decide? YOu saw the ugly faced cab driver judge who had it in for Trump. You could tell by his fox-eating grin that Trump did not have a chance. No, to judge decide. And being a white-collar, I would want my lawyer to poll jurors who understand things like, well...bank records. Imagine when unbelievable hordes of aliens will qualify when y'all take over in 2028.....they will decide my fate! Bank records? What are they?. I suggest you reconsider. Are you a gambler?

@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
So you know more than the DA's involved. Where did you get your legal training? Have you passed your Bar exams yet?
Besides that, I see no comment by you about the morality of a defendant attacking juries. You see no problem with that? I guess in planet Joe1, that is the new normal.

But of course if it was Biden under these charges and treated the jury like that, HANG THE SOB.

Sonhouse, ...you see, you don't know why he does that. But you have decided that he should not? He has his reasons, maybe he does it for all this publicity to win the WH back. A good reason, don't you think? People have differing reasons for things.
Shav thinks there was no reason to bomb, wipe out, Hiroshima. Me, I would have pushed the button. You think Trump needs to be like everyone else and shut his mouth. But that is not Trump. I think he needs to draw attention. I can't believe you do not see the method in his madness. His own grandmother is probably upset that he does not mind his manners, Sonhouse. Actually,
i am sure she is upset.

@mchill said
Have you seen the news on it? Bragg has no jurisdiction with regard to a Federal law.



You depend on your news source for legal advice? OMG- - 🙄

Hey, little feller. You get so emotional with your plethora of posts, you overlook clear points, like this one, from me, 3 clicks up. Silly guy. Hey, everyone, McHill knows Bragg is out of his jurisdiction, and wants the case(s) to be thrown out. He is a Trump man!!

'Bragg has no jurisdiction with regard to a Federal law'. (AvJoe).

@spruce112358 said
Surely, you remember what you were replying to?

@sonhouse: "Yeah, like here in the US in century 19 and 18, children forced to work in mines, lots of dead children from that dark era."

With all due respects, if I saw such a sentence, I would breeze right over it because we are plenty busy in our present day situation, I feel no need to talk about the past. The past is irrelevant, just like I say often that the word 'why' is irrelevant... we are where we are. We are doing what we do and we have to deal with it in present day.
On the other hand, you can write about what Trump did 5 years ago. Tell us that Operation Warp Speed was a failure, or what yoiu know about Jan 6 which is zilch.
Get a grip, Sonhouse.

@sonhouse said
A deliberate tactic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAlTLOdK4Y0
His gag order says no attacking the jury and others or reposting.
We will find out tomorrow what the judge will do. How can he not through this cretin in jail?

Because Trump is being improperly accused. Have you seen the news on it? Bragg has no jurisdiction with regard to a Federal law, and the misdemeanor's Statute of Limitations has run.
It was refreshing to see a normal question from the sonhouse. Thumb up from AJoe.

@kellyjay said
Your fixation on the guy is nothing sort of mental abnormality.

Why does he hammer it home so much. We get it. Does he think he will cause a person like me to want a person like Biden to run our nation. My thoughts, like everyone's, go to management abilities or whatever. That silly Sonhouse, who has likely had prurient thoughts, which is immoral, really wants to pick a guy for the wrong reasons. Seems my reasons make more sense...you know, presidential leadership? Check out here how pitiful the mind of Joe Biden. At least he does not mention his son Bo for the thousandth time.....

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/17/politics/biden-uncle-cannibals-new-guinea/index.html

@spruce112358 said
Children can't just go 'get another job.' They have to do what their parents tell them because the parents give them food, clothing and shelter (and many other things - but let's leave love and affirmation out of it for the moment.)

If a parent tells them, 'go work,' they have to go. That's not free market labor.

That's slavery.

When you provide someone room ...[text shortened]... bor.

You arguing that we bring back slavery, AverageJoe? That is BOLD even for a Southerner!

Sincerely sorry, I thought we were discussing the united states of america. So which countries do you want us to weave into discussions about,,,,what, children working?
If you are discussing other countries, my apologies, I respectfully bow out, those are conditions with which I am unfamiliar. I would think that that would be a very basic separate thread for all of you foreigners to write about.