Baker Invitational Round 1

Baker Invitational Round 1

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stitching you up

Joined
08 Apr 02
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7146
19 Sep 02

When I posted I was under the mistaken belief that Vaskno was TD (I
see mostly his posts about game scores etc.) and that it'd be him
(her? sorry my brain's fried at the moment) who'd be sorting things
out.
All I was trying to get across was that the tournament isn't dead while
some people are still enjoying it. That not all are is sad, but not in
any way the tournaments fault.

MT

Swansea

Joined
03 Jul 02
Moves
5679
17 Sep 02

I have sympathy for all of the true chess players here. BUT
I am sorry but the Tournament Director caused this mess. As soon as
he resolves it I will play the tiebreak and my other rated games at my
normal speed.
In any civilized country you cannot just accuse an innocent person
without proof. We have moved on since the times of ducking stools,
haven't we?
If he has proof about ANY of the players he accused of cheating in
their chess play he must disclose it and RHP will support him.
If he hasn't he must apologize.
I repeat cheating in their chess play, IF people use their RHP accounts
to have fun or flirt or do anything else not connected with their (rated)
games then that is private and personal.
It is very simple. I believe the law of libel is applicable on the internet
but unfortunately it maybe the owners of the site who would legally be
held to account. Nobody wants that as we would lose the one thing we
have in common, this site.

so lets please sort this out soon
Janey

m
The MAKIA

a bit closer please

Joined
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17 Sep 02

Janey,
I'll have to ask, are you jumping to an unwarranted conclusion about
Ray, in a manner similar to how others have about you? Based on
what you wrote, it COULD be that Ray is not moving for the reasons
you think. However, many other events could also explain his lack of
play.

Perhaps Ray has gone away for a long weekend, or has computer
problems, or a myriad other things; maybe he is wanting to take the
game extra slow BECAUSE you two have already drawn twice.

Unless he has told you specifically he refuses to play because of the
allegations, you may be jumping to conclusions. Your post did not
imply to me that he specifically told you this, just that you conlcuded it
from his lack of play. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, if Ray is refusing to play you, then under current rules you would
win the game based on the time out rules. You shouldn't have
deleted! Refusing to play Ray because of an altercation with Dave is
simply not a proper solution.

Sincerely,
Michael

MT

Swansea

Joined
03 Jul 02
Moves
5679
17 Sep 02

Dear Michael
I apologize if my wording was unclear i had no intention to imply that
Ray was avoiding me, it is the situation that those falsley accused
have found themselves in that has become impossible, and as
someone else has stated the tourney is in danger of falling apart.
For the record Ray behaved like a perfect gentleman in both 1st round
games, and certainly held an edge in 1 of the drawn positions.
Claiming a win by the time out rule would not help restore my
reputation nor give any satisfaction, i want to win of course but fairly
and using MY OWN ability

The Ambassador

Charleston SC. USA

Joined
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18 Sep 02

From e-mail I received from Islanddoc:"I gave a draw to my opponent
and will be out from there on - sorry but I started back playing chess
to reduce my stress and provide an creative outlet. Unfortunatly I'm a
Type A personality so the stress went up and I became way too
obsessed with online chess. So I quit cold turkey for awhile to get my
life back into rhythm

THanks

Ray

In view or this correspondence, Jane (MissTake) wins the tie-breaked.
John
Assistant Td Baker Invitational

MT

Swansea

Joined
03 Jul 02
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18 Sep 02

I hope Ray is soon back on his feet. He played as equally well as me
over the two games
Good luck to my next opponent
Janey

stitching you up

Joined
08 Apr 02
Moves
7146
19 Sep 02

I sympathise with your position. Ray not moving is his decision. Your
decision to discontinue the game is a form of protestation. But the
rules are set, and if one of you refuses to move beyond timeout
surely you have chosen to forfeit. If both of you refuse to start
games then suerly you're both forfeit?
I'm not trying to be harsh, but try imagining a face to face tournament
where 2 players refused to sit at the table - if they didn't start by the
time everyone else was in the endgame they would be withdrawn.
You might not feel you should have to defend yourself, but could you
e-mail Ray and get a dialogue going. Trust might come out of the 2
of you knowing each other a little on a personal level?

MT

Swansea

Joined
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19 Sep 02

It has been decided now anyway. I fully agree with one point you
make though
Janey

stitching you up

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19 Sep 02

only one of them? Oh well, I suppose that's better than usual ;o)
Freak - the misundertood/ununderstandable

D
Canada'sChamp

Calgary Alberta

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18 Sep 02

ummm.........i am lost, i cant remember which tourney i am in, its
been a while since i search the forums, but for anyone who cares, i
just beet macca in round one, and we have one game remainding,
but i really dont know what to do when posting a victory, or if someone
automatically knows, its been a while since i read up on it, and i cant
really find an answer in the forums. Should i post the second game
when it finishes? i dont know!!

Anyways, thanks to all, take care!

Dustin Rogers

The Ambassador

Charleston SC. USA

Joined
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Moves
141762
19 Sep 02

Dustin,
I understand what you are asking. You joined the Baker
Invitational tournament. From monitoring the moves made, I
gathered that you had not made a move in the required time and I
declared your game timeout wins for Mecca. I never got your e-mail
address and was not able to write you. I know we are playing non-
tournament games and I never asked.
If I made a mistake I'll be glad to review the situation and
correct it. Please help me with this by sending me a copy of your
game with date and time annotations, and ask Mecca to do the same.

John
Assistant Td Baker Invitational
vaknso@aol.com